michrasmanNov 11
Natasha  🇪🇺

Sums up the BBC

🖊️ Cartoon by Stephen Collins

#BBC

Nov 10 at 7:30amWeb
Show threadTimNov 10
@Natasha_Jay Sums up liberal media in general.
Show threadgoedelchenNov 10
@seufz @Natasha_Jay You can call media that invite fascists still liberal?
Show threadarclightNov 10
@goedelchen @seufz @Natasha_Jay 'liberal' doesnt mean what you think if means.
Show threadgoedelchenNov 10
@arclight @seufz @Natasha_Jay Is it? What do you think is my understanding of "liberal"?
Show threadxs4me2Nov 10

@Natasha_Jay

And the current media in the western world in general…

Show threadPonderStibbonsNov 10

@Natasha_Jay

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Show threadAljoscha Rittner (beandev)Nov 10
@Natasha_Jay
We have the same issue in Germany. 🫩
@webhat
Show threadSamirNov 10
@beandev @Natasha_Jay @webhat they invite Churchill?
Show threadRob WilliamsonNov 10

@Natasha_Jay

Yep, the false notion of two sides that must somehow be balanced has a lot to answer for.

The BBC can do debates when there is genuinely an unclear issue. When there is an expert giving their opinion, there should be no opportunity for challenge from a loudmouthed simpleton from Tufton Street, or other propaganda factory du jour.

As for the problem of who decides what is factual, ensure the BBC can be sued pro bono, and let the courts decide what is true, as usual.

Show threadRob WilliamsonNov 10

@Natasha_Jay

Of course, that presupposes a functioning, therefore well funded, justice system, and provision in law to prevent vexatious cases. Neither of which is in place today, AFAIK.

Show threadBrynawelNov 10

@Natasha_Jay

Same with ÖRR in Germany.

Show threadTom DB 🦣Nov 10
@Natasha_Jay Debates by definition never look for nuanced views, but for opposing views. No matter the expertise nowadays unfortunately….
Show threadeclecticcakemixNov 10
@Natasha_Jay pity he initially applauded Hitler…but they have been avoiding certain topics for a while
Show threadShadSterlingNov 10
@Natasha_Jay TIL of the German word “raus”, which a quick internet search says means “out”, “away”, or “free”, and now I wonder if I’d been missing much of the meaning of the title of the graphic novel Maus
Show threadCioranNov 10
@ShadSterling @Natasha_Jay In this conext it means "out" or simply "get out"
Show threadFunHouse RadioNov 10
@ShadSterling @Natasha_Jay
Ok but there are lots of "aus" words in German.
Show threadCarola OttenburgNov 10
@ShadSterling
German native speaker here and let me tell you that "raus" in no context means "free".
In the context of this cartoon it's short for "get out of here NOW!" Maybe with some more exclamation marks.
@Natasha_Jay
Show threadJaddyNov 11

@C_Ottenburg @ShadSterling @Natasha_Jay „German native speaker here and let me tell you that "raus" in no context means "free“.“

with the slight exception of „Ich bin raus!“, meaning „I'm out (of this sh..)“ = „I’m free of it“.

But as vocative or imperative, it always means an extremely rude „get out of here“.

Show threadDonCCNov 10

@Natasha_Jay

it's the whole die on my feet or live on my knees argument...

Show threadEggs now in different baskets.Nov 10

@Natasha_Jay I gave up on the BBC a long time ago. Not even the World Service is worthy my attention anymore.

I cannot believe that the public service broadcaster of my youth has turned into yet another news service fawning to the extreme right-wing concept of "balance" in reporting.

The cartoon clearly illustrates how that kind of "balance" works in practice.

Show threadmossmanNov 10
@the_wub @Natasha_Jay I got furious about their "balance" regarding the environment in the 1990s - I remember writing a ranty blog post about it... then completely gave up on the BBC because of their "balance" around the Brexit referendum.
Show threadCeltillosNov 10

@Natasha_Jay

Churchill était un partisan de l'"ordre" et préférait maintenir des monarchies autoritaires qui réprimait les révoltes sociales plutôt que de soutenir les demandes plus démocratiques.
Sa vision était de défendre et agir pour l'Empire britannique.
Je pense que c'est un très mauvais choix que de le poser en antithèse d'Hitler.

Show thread[email protected]Nov 10
@Natasha_Jay
The International Association of Program Directors loves to host Nazis in their broadcasting studios.🫠
Show threadwortezimmerNov 10

@Natasha_Jay
Can we do this for Germany, please?

This is so spot-on.

Show threadCarola OttenburgNov 10
@Natasha_Jay
Sums up German public-service broadcasting as well
Show threadLinda ENov 10

@Natasha_Jay

And every mainstream US media outlet as well, if they even bother to allow someone to use the F word.

Show threadStoneface VimesNov 10
@Natasha_Jay and much of the rest of the media.
Show threadPxl PhileNov 10
@Natasha_Jay the RAUS killed me 😂 that's truly a German thing, right next to Nein, and genau
Show threadTerryBNov 10
@Natasha_Jay Yes.
Show threadGeraintLlanfranchetaNov 11
@Natasha_Jay starmer bowed to trump. Disgusting.
Show threadLeah Rowe ist kein RoweboterNov 12

@Natasha_Jay Considering what the Nazis did, Hitler is even scarier when you understand German. I've been teaching myself the German language, as a British person.

Non-speakers hear Hitler and to them it sounds like a lunatic thug shouting wildly into a microphone.

When you start to understand the words, you hear that he says at the start of each speech, something like: "Ladies and gentleman, fellow compatriots,", followed by numerous references to then-current affairs - he sounds like Trump.

Show threadHippo 🍉Nov 12
@Natasha_Jay and the New York Times is gleefully reporting this in the most biased way (highlighting the times it accidentally did something the Zionists didn't like)