Christian Drumm 🇪🇺🧗🚵

Why does #SAP make it so hard to learn and/or teach its technology? 🤯

Since two weeks the #cloudfoundry environment on the #BTP trail is not working anymore. That means e.g. no deployment of #SAPCAP apps to the BTP trial anymore.

https://community.sap.com/t5/technology-blog-posts-by-sap/btp-trial-update-cf-runtime-availability/bc-p/14256159

Re: BTP Trial Update: CF Runtime Availability

Dear , thank you for reaching out. I don't expect the issue to be fixed before January unfortunately. The situation requires more effort, than expected so I don't want to and also cannot promise anything and set right expectations.  Please excuse the inconvenience that his may cause.  Best regards, ...

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Oct 29 at 12:25pmWeb
Show threadMarian ZeisOct 29
@ceedee666 feels like there will be a announcement next week regarding this, i fear not a positive one, i hope it is actually as described in the post
Show threadGregor Wolf-15kWp☀️/13kWh🏡🔋Nov 24
@Mianbsp @ceedee666 no Announcement at #SAPTechEd but an update at https://community.sap.com/t5/technology-blog-posts-by-sap/btp-trial-update-cf-runtime-availability/bc-p/14272987/highlight/true#M186479 saying it will take until next year to bring Cloud Foundry back to the #SAPBTP Trial.
Re: BTP Trial Update: CF Runtime Availability

Dear , thank you for reaching out. I don't expect the issue to be fixed before January unfortunately. The situation requires more effort, than expected so I don't want to and also cannot promise anything and set right expectations.  Please excuse the inconvenience that his may cause.  Best regards, ...

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Show threadChristian Drumm 🇪🇺🧗🚵Nov 25

@gregorw @Mianbsp
The problem seems to be a massive misuse of the trials system for some unwanted activities. Fixing this seems to be difficult.

Still, the trial systems are treated as something nice to have instead as some important part of the offering. E.g. right now non of the tutorials on learning.sap.com that deploys a #CAP app to the #BTP is going to work.

cc @htammen

Show threadChristian Drumm 🇪🇺🧗🚵Nov 25

@gregorw @Mianbsp @htammen

For me, I’m just reworking my systems integration lecture to use #Apache #Camel and #Karavan instead of the integration suite. Will definitely not go back to use the integration suite in the future for this lecture.

Another missed opportunity for #sap...

Show threadGregor Wolf-15kWp☀️/13kWh🏡🔋Nov 25
@ceedee666 @Mianbsp @htammen is there any offering from UCC Magdeburg or München?
Show threadChristian Drumm 🇪🇺🧗🚵Nov 25

@gregorw @Mianbsp @htammen

No. Basically none of the cloud solutions are available to universities.

Only IBP, Build Process Automation, Build Apps, and an ABAP Cloud environment are available. There also was a Integration Suite project once. But it is not available as a product through the UCCs.

So there is no option to get a "full" BTP for teaching.

Show threadGregor Wolf-15kWp☀️/13kWh🏡🔋Jan 13
@ceedee666 @Mianbsp @htammen the #SAP #BTP Trial with #CloudFoundry is back.
Show threadHelmut TammenJan 13
@gregorw @ceedee666 @Mianbsp but still only the #BTP #trial with 90-diay-license, right? No #freetier?
Show threadChristian Drumm 🇪🇺🧗🚵Jan 13

@gregorw @Mianbsp @htammen Thanks for the heads up! Just in time to the end of the semester.

For my system integration lecture I switched to #apache #Camel and #Karavan in the mean time. Won't go back to teaching #SAP integration suite on a #BTP #trial. To much hassle and to many limitations...

Show threadHelmut TammenNov 24
@ceedee666 that's exactly the reason why I'm so quiet for a while now. I'm really frustrated and upset. SAP opened their technology stack a bit in the past. But in the last 2 or 3 years they turned around.
I still earn my money with SAP consulting but whenever I see a possibility I tell my customers that there are also good alternatives which are are more open and hence easier to learn and introduce.