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@BrentToderian But removing car lanes to encourage public transit is like increasing food prices to cure obesity.
@mr_creosote

@oscherler @BrentToderian Where I work (big place), they are now building new parking space for cars, three stories in addition to the existing vast parking spaces. The streets leading there will remain the same, however. More parking space will simply encourage even more people to take their car to work who will then clog the already overloaded streets. It's simply stupid.

(I'm also in favour of increasing the prices/taxation of unhealthy food.)

@mr_creosote I didn’t say unhealthy food, I said food.

And the solution to encourage public transport is to make it not suck, not to piss off even more the people for whom it’s already inadequate (e.g. people who live in the countryside because they can’t afford to live opposite the train station like the people who come up with these shitty measures do.)
@BrentToderian

@oscherler @BrentToderian Of course. Anyway, I don't think anyone has argued in favour of *removing car lanes* without further measures, so it seems like a straw man point...?

@mr_creosote Where I live it’s a pretty common technique: piss off car users to “encourage” public transit. Piss off commuters to “encourage” them to take another route, with complete disregard for the people who live there and will endure those mesures even though they’re for the target and have no choice about it.

Welcome to Idiocracy. We were even on French TV for it. https://www.20min.ch/fr/video/colombier-ne-le-feu-rouge-a-11-minutes-d-attente-fait-reagir-jusqu-a-paris-103437191
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Colombier (NE): Le feu rouge à 11 minutes d’attente fait réagir jusqu’à Paris

Un feu rouge à la sortie de Colombier, dans le canton de Neuchâtel, fait patienter les automobilistes plus de dix minutes. De quoi agacer les uns… et faire rire les autres, jusqu’à Paris, où Laurent Ruquier s’en est amusé dans son émission «Les Grosses Têtes». (chs)

20 minutes
@oscherler @BrentToderian If there is no "functional" reason for this, it is obviously stupid. Where I live, traffic lights are (not a conspiracy theory, they openly admit it) "optimized" so that car drivers will have minimum disturbance. I cycle to work. Consequently, the traffic lights are very hostile to me.