myrmepropagandistThe SCP foundation is...
mostly evil
Doing Their Best
self deluded that they have "control"
mostly good
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I regard the SCP Foundation folk tales as a series of myths made by people who see The Military Industrial Complex and try to imagine a reason why something like that might need to exist.
The only sane response is to imagine that there are literal supernatural monsters. Then such gross destructive power might "make sense"
But, like any folk tale it can serve many purposes. Depending on how you tell it.
A large portion of SCP tales focus on the very Tactical Squads of Tactical Men who have lots of gear and cool code names and patches and do "operations" and "extractions" to get the monsters.
The SCP Foundation is deeply secretive and extrajudicial. It's like a mutant CIA or FBI "off books" operation. But when you study real operations like that they are clown shows. They hardly ever work even within their own deeply distorted ethical framework.
Listen buddy, I do not need you or your "MTF* Unit" to "preserve my precious bodily fluids"
I prefer the chaos beast. "Baseline Reality" can sit and spin.
*unfortunately, this stands for "Mobile Task Force."
Marc "ACAB" Godin@futurebird If my bodily fluids are so precious why are they the first thing my body ditches when I'm sick?
kechpaja@futurebird Idk, an "MTF unit" sounds like a decent alternative to blockers, hormones, and surgery.
none gender with left politics@kechpaja @futurebird ngl I read the messages out of order and was confused at first too
alleightbits@futurebird Miscellaneous thoughts on the matter:
- From my experience browsing the SCP Wiki nowadays, many Tales I've seen are from the POV of Foundation researchers, Foundation admin staff, or somebody from an external Group of Interest. Stuff that fleshes out the world and its canons
- From my experience browsing the SCP Wiki nowadays, many Tales I've seen are from the POV of Foundation researchers, Foundation admin staff, or somebody from an external Group of Interest. Stuff that fleshes out the world and its canons
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- Narratively, I feel like the Foundation, conceptually, has always had an undercurrent of "having this much power isn't good" that tends to come up more frequently nowadays, as the average SCP entry became more elaborate. I mean, before, the standard for this stuff was SCP-231, or the long-abandoned monthly culling of D-Class personnel, but now there's more avenues with which to approach this
- Narratively, I feel like the Foundation, conceptually, has always had an undercurrent of "having this much power isn't good" that tends to come up more frequently nowadays, as the average SCP entry became more elaborate. I mean, before, the standard for this stuff was SCP-231, or the long-abandoned monthly culling of D-Class personnel, but now there's more avenues with which to approach this
@futurebird We've seen stories where the Foundation's various branches of power (e.g.: the O5 Council, the Administrator, the Ethics Committee) duke it out in internal power struggles, we've seen SCP entries where the Foundation overplays their hand or looks too deep, and the world suffers for it, and we have a plethora of GoIs to provide alternative outlooks to the anomalous community at large (once again, hello, Gamers Against Weed)
Sharp Leaves@futurebird This was a really cool analysis of something I'm tangentially familiar with. While I'm being lazy, what are the 'off the books' agencies you're referring to?
Or have I misunderstood, and you mean the times publically known agencies conducted operations that lost touch with reality (or never had any to begin with), like say Project MKULTRA or the Bay of Pigs or something like that?
Yes I was thinking of things like Project MKULTRA and the Bay of Pigs... and whatever they are doing in Venezuela right now. I'm so sick of this crap. It's not just immoral and evil it's also ineffective and unintelligent.
Jimmy@futurebird @BoysenberryCider Toss in that Special Forces debacle into North Korea.
These are people who read competence porn and think it's real, so they think they can do it. They need to read Clausewitz instead. "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."
The US military are constantly telling each other that they are the cream of America, but the fact is their recruiting pool is unemployable youth.
Irenes (many)@futurebird oh we love this take
Nature is an SCP. How will you contain it?
ira sun@futurebird @ireneista Banishment is off-key and likely to backfire anyhow. Dancing reveals core intentions and opens portals. We’re both guest & host alike, and there’s only this one house. Natural law is the only law, but be wary of folks attempting to tell you what’s natural.
@futurebird @ireneista I’m not certain whether this response adequately expands upon yr wise words about the military industrial complex as something that might as well be supernatural, and about nature as a hyperobject that secures, protects and contains as it will, whether this suits our plans or not, but a near-rhyme/adjacent tone meditation seemed best.
@futurebird @ireneista and this SCP speculative fiction endeavor seems quite wild — thanks for the tip top tip
It's a wonderful project. Parts of it just have a bad case of Secret Police Military Fantasy and it annoys me.
@futurebird @ira and of course the Ethics Board parts of it are just depressingly real
I love the Ethics Board.
@futurebird @ira we love it to but we have to read it very, very slowly. we've fought for ethics in a corporate setting, it's close to home.
@ireneista @futurebird my interest is now stoked — but yes, a 1st cursory glance revels that it’s premise could easily be spun into Secret Police Military Fantasy which would be hard to stomach.
Roger BW 😷@futurebird Good old rough men fallacy: there are scary things out there so we have to have the power to [whatever], you sheep just can't understand. See all anti-terrorism legislation ever.
My head cannon is everything would be fine if they simply stopped. LOL.
I'm being accused of being a sleeper agent for "Are We Cool Yet" over on the wiki
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Not a Spring Onion@futurebird With the SCP universe, I can't really keep format and worldbuilding apart.
Maybe because of the "constant need" to somehow put the revelation at the end (like in a good story), which is a stark contrast to a proper "scientific" format that would put the important info as a summary on top.
"Let's describe unspeakable horrors in clinical terms."
And of course, if you try to fit this into our world, you basically need an organization with almost limitless resources. And an epic worldwide conspiracy that would never work in reality.
Queen of Anxiety@futurebird I had to look it up as not familiar. Makes me want to start a series about the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Supernatural Beings. The small office of those who are in charge of helping supernaturals navigate the world and prevent humans from causing them harm.
doll!@futurebird depends entirely on who's writing; you can see trends of "the foundation is evil", "the foundation is good", "some parts are evil and some parts are good", and everything else as you go through the main series.
@futurebird Gamers Against Weed psyop, I see you :p
@futurebird When I answered this I chose: "Mostly evil, doing their best, and self-deluded that they have control" but many of them think they are mostly good. So, exactly like the military industrial complex.