Mommy's strongest femboytoy
Meta to start using end to end encrypted WhatsApp chats to train meta AI starting this December

Let me repeat that for you

END TO END ENCRYPTED
Oct 13, 2025 at 2:10pmWeb
Show threadMommy's strongest femboytoyOct 13, 2025
"Hey guys meta is evil, bad stuff is coming"

"Don't be paranoid"

bad stuff happens

"Well nobody could have seen that coming!"
Show threadKevin Karhan Oct 13, 2025

@th3f4ult WELL, #WhatsApp NEVER was properly encrypted.

If they had proper E2EE they'd be illegal in #Russia, #KSA, #Iran and "P.R." #China...

-> I #ToldYaSo!

https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114873895410403238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PW3O2mqTn8

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

We have @[email protected] [rightfully!] crack down on #cars and their #emissions by demanding ever lower #FleetEmissions and #FuelConsumption numbers but still accept #Bloatware like shitty #WebApps and #Windows11 to demand so much #WastefulComputing that it's painful. - Margaret Hammond and Grace Hopper must be rotating in their graves, pointing out how they got people on the moon with less storage than the SPD-ROM on a RAM stick and how their programming language still runs #TradFinance like a clockwork respectably, but somehow sending text messages is too much for a machine that costs €499 yet has more computational power than all the machines they worked on combined. #WastefulComputing like all those [phat & enshittified messengers](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114873864980037941) should be illegal. - Espechally since they have 0 reason to be that resource intensive, even if we believe some of their security-focussed [marketing lies.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PW3O2mqTn8)

Infosec.Space
Show threadMagical CatOct 13, 2025
@kkarhan @th3f4ult
So far Kremlin forbid video-calls via WhatApp (and Telegram, mention this for sake of completeness). Kremlin made some technical measures that such calls simply does not work.
In ruzzia authorities force people to install the spyware known as "Messenger Max". Many people there buy special cheap second smartphone where only this spyware get installed and nothing there.
These details may be important to understand situation there, but not related to the real e2ee.
Show threadKevin Karhan Oct 13, 2025

@koteisaev @th3f4ult thanks for the details.

I do know other juristictions that actibely ban / prohibit #Videocalling buz most are content blocking #WebRTC...

Thanks for letting us know...

Show threadArcturax 🦇Oct 13, 2025

@th3f4ult sure they didn't lie, directly. Your chat leaves encrypted and arrives encrypted. They just don't tell you about their man in the middle actions.

If the code is closed source you dont know what really happens in the app.

If the code is obfuscated, it is *malicious*

Show threadViolet Oct 13, 2025
@th3f4ult Source?
Show threadSteffo Oct 13, 2025

@th3f4ult @Enalys

> In the future, anyone who chats *with Meta AI* will have their full conversations stored and examined by Meta.

It's just messages that you send to the AI things. Not other messages.
Also, it's just outside the EU and UK.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2931249/warning-meta-will-start-snooping-on-your-ai-chats-in-its-apps-in-december.html
https://about.fb.com/news/2025/10/improving-your-recommendations-apps-ai-meta/

Please list your sources in the future and don't spread misinformation!
(https://steffo.blog/outrage-warps-reality/)

Warning! Meta will start snooping on your AI chats in its apps in December

WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram are affected. The policy rolls out starting December 16th, though the EU and UK are exempt for now.

PCWorld
Show threadCharlieOct 13, 2025
@th3f4ult Kevin, please look into the posts before you blindly boost them. OP is clearly just posting bullshit without actually reading the source material.
Show threadStarChild(They/them)Oct 13, 2025
@th3f4ult Can you point me to the source? There are some folks I would like to update it.
Show threadFDA approved  lycheeOct 14, 2025
@th3f4ult
E2EE means nothing if the app handling decrypted text cannot be trusted
or if the app handling the encryption keys cannot be trusted
or if the encryption algorithm cannot be trusted
or if
Show threadFDA approved  lycheeOct 14, 2025
@th3f4ult
Look, all I mean is,
almost everything sucks, but
[expletive] meta especially.