Martin Holland

Macron: "We were incredibly naive to entrust our democratic space to #SocialNetworks that are controlled either by large American entrepreneurs or large Chinese companies, whose interests are not at all the survival or proper functioning of our democracies."

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Oct 5 at 11:37amWeb
Show threadReiner Jung 🇬🇱 🇺🇦 🇪🇺Oct 5
@fingolas well we have to write Macron.
Show thread📎Nick Oct 5

@prefec2 @fingolas here you go(I think): https://www.elysee.fr/en/contact/

And I guess one can mention https://social.numerique.gouv.fr

#Mastodon #French #Oui #Macron

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Show threadMcWabbit 🇺🇦🍋🌻🍉Oct 5
@fingolas Lead by example.
Show threadDagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥Oct 5

@McWabbit

YES!

@fingolas

Show threadBálint SzilaksziOct 5
@fingolas is this you?
Show threadGabriel PettierOct 5
@szbalint @fingolas it would be a lot better if they had an option like mastodon as well in there, now all the options are one of the mentionned US networks.
Show threadMnemosinaOct 5
@tshirtman @szbalint @fingolas The French government does have a Mastodon server and I'm normally 100% behind shaming ALL EU governments into breaking away from the monopolies. Having said that... this speech was given in Germany and GERMANS don't get to talk shit about him on this topic. He's been warning them for years about what keeping Europe dependent on the US militarily means and Germany, Northern and Eastern Europe vilified him for it. A Mastodon button won't chage that.
Show threadGabriel PettierOct 5
@Mnemosinee @szbalint @fingolas i'm French and i know they have mastodon servers, i don't think it's the result of a top level will, and it's sad that they don't get more use and publicity.
Show threadMnemosinaOct 5
@tshirtman @szbalint @fingolas I've written to both my local government and a couple of European institutions about moving away to European platforms, the fediverse is simply unknown at institutional level, nobody seems to know it exists. So I'm not disputing that all institutions should be on it, I'm calling bullshit on GERMANS reacting to someone who's told them for years what dependency on the US meant (the military dependency is key to everything) like their shit doesn't stink.
Show threadFrançois Lemaire 🏴‍☠️Oct 6
@szbalint
This meme doesn't work in this case. Emmanuel Macron is not a poor peasant plowing under his charge by any mean. If he tells everyone that to follow the Elysée's news, you have to get a mastodon account, people will.
@fingolas
Show threadMealin ⧖⃝Oct 6

@szbalint @fingolas
He doesn't deserve this joker of kindness and nuance.

During all these years, he purposely mocked people who where in no position to easily change things and specialized himself in telling one thing and doing the opposite : his "en même temps... " (=At the same time...) politic.

Furthermore, the Elysée's website has gone through many change during his presidency, and he tried so hard to create this "start-up nation" image on every streaming app 🫠! So he is really aware of these contradictions and embraces them himself but criticizes them in every over human behavior.

Show threadLipOct 5
@fingolas they must do more than speak however they must also speak more
Show threadMichael ᚋᚔᚉᚆᚓᚐᚂOct 5
@fingolas @CiaraNi Yes. Governments have to take a lead in this. At the minimum they should set up Mastodon instances and encourage local government to do likewise.
Show threadCiaraOct 5
@baoigheallain @fingolas Agreed. It seems both obvious and critically important at this stage, and yet governments are slow to even show signs of understanding the need to be independent of Big Tech and to share information with their own citizens and residents independently of Big Tech. I cannot get over the fact that our government and politicians and police etc here are still using X for public information.
Show threadZoidberg For PresidentOct 7
@baoigheallain @fingolas @CiaraNi Please no...
Show threadMnemosinaOct 5
@fingolas Would the presidency adding a Mastodon button to link to the French government's server here make Germany magically stop buying American weapons and keeping all of Europe tethered into its American dependency (as it did to Russian gas for a while)?
Show threadI AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Oct 5

@Mnemosinee
Of course it wouldn't make that happen. I guess we can't do ANYTHING until that is corrected, then?

@fingolas

Show threadMnemosinaOct 5

@xinit @fingolas No, we can and should always DO things. But think of it as a pyramid of needs. If your house has no roof and also broken windows and you only have enough money to fix the broken windows right now, sure, do fix them. But until you build a roof, you'll still get rained on.

The original post is tonedeaf as it's coming from tonedeaf atlanticists who treated him like an apostate for years for telling them the truth. He wants to build the roof.

Show threadI AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Oct 5
@Mnemosinee Thanks. On re-reading my response, I could have been a little less.
Show threadMnemosinaOct 5
@xinit noooo, not you, I meant the original post, will edit.
Show threadI AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Oct 5
@Mnemosinee Oh no, not accusing you - I was a bit "Twittery" in my response. I try to catch that before posting :D
Show threadxs4me2Oct 5

@fingolas

Well the same behavior for most politicians and governmental institutions in Europe btw, so not only him. This default needs to change… open source, distributed and regulated.

Show threadTobias MerkendorfOct 5
Well. An addict is well placed to warn about addiction.
Show threadToni AittoniemiOct 5
@fingolas Mais Monsieur Macron, votre gouvernement soutiendra-t-il la Fediverse ?
Show threadHikerOct 5
@fingolas At least a small penny has fallen—perhaps, and hopefully, with consequences now.
Show threadPeter BrownOct 5
@fingolas time for mastodon!
Show threadeverton137Oct 5

@fingolas An Open Letter to All European Politicians and Leaders to Abandon X/Twitter https://leavex.eu

CC @leavex

P.S. That a case where I'd love to be able to share the previous post I shared with a quote. I wish @Vivaldi can update its Mastodon instance soon.

#LeaveX #EUPol

Leave X - Protect Democracy

Leave X - Protect Democracy
Show threadLeave X - Protect DemocracyOct 5
@fingolas Ha! We cannot quote the post with a reference to our letter to European politicians.
Show threadDéfi ÉcologiqueOct 5
@fingolas "qui aurait pu prédire?"
Show threadAndresOct 6
@fingolas ingenuos? Más bien vagos, incompetentes, cortos de miras e irresponsables.
Show threadIt's Soooo 4DOct 6
@fingolas Fascists don't like the last democratic, open, free speach place that remains and that's not submitted to their Propaganda bullshit.
Show threadStephane Audic . For HireOct 6
@fingolas He said that on X ?