Natanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸
What will you do if the #EU actually introduces #chatcontrol?
#TotalSurveillance #pol
Won't change a thing
9.4%
Stop communicating
9.4%
Try to defend myself against the feds
68.8%
Other (comment)
12.5%
Poll ended at .
Sep 30, 2025 at 12:17pmWeb
Show threadNatanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Sep 30, 2025

I honestly have a hard time not to have my depression take me back to the deepest possible pit just thinking about it… it feels like the abuse I've arlready known, but then it would be *factually* inescapable. I don't know how to deal with living in a dystopia.

Edit: Defending against the feds also seems so utterly pointless. They can literally introduce shit on Layer 1 (the hardware). Damn, the US probably already has (IME / PSP). That's inescapable.

Show threadPaul von DrayventhalSep 30, 2025
@Natanox you can start writing letters. Worked back then, works now. You can also encrypt them. It's nice. :3
Show threadMattSep 30, 2025

@Natanox Perhaps an asymmetric approach is needed in the future to escape theses issues. Like 'sneakernet' and off-grid means of communication (meshtastic, private networks, zines, mail, etc.)

Just a matter of finding the blind spots. Someday big tech will die and the internet dark ages will end

Show threadNatanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Sep 30, 2025
Should've named it "Stop communicating DIGITALLY". Editing would reset the votes though, so… 🤷‍♀️
Show thread"Musty Bits" McGeeSep 30, 2025
@Natanox might confuse sign language users too 🤭
Show threadJérémy PagèsSep 30, 2025
@Natanox I will use my technical skills, but also advocate for the withdrawal of my country (France) from the EU.
Show threadNatanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Sep 30, 2025
@jpages It's important to point out France is one of the main contributors to surveillance policies. You wouldn't be safer from them - perhaps even the opposite.
Show threadPablo Majster Sep 30, 2025

@Natanox I won't sit and watch if ChatControl becomes real 🔐 I'm not okay with this kind of surveillance, and I'll do whatever I can to help people get access to real encrypted communication - no backdoors, no compromises.

For me personally, I don't think it would change much  I download apps directly from developers, skipping app stores whenever I can, so it's not that easy to block me. And even if they try, we still have Tor, VPNs and other ways to bypass censorship 🛡️ Plus, the tools I use have already said they won't cooperate with the EU - they'd rather leave the market than break their principles. That means we won't end up in a situation where messages get scanned on one side.

 Of course, it won't be that easy for people I talk to. Some won't want to deal with the hassle, others will think installing @signalapp, etc. in a semi-legal way is too risky, and iPhone users will have a hard time working around the system  But that doesn't mean it's impossible. It just means we need to help - explain things, support each other, find workarounds 🤝

If this law really happens, I'm not backing down 💪 I'll support any initiative that fights it. And I'll try to organize with people who share my values, because I know we're stronger together. This isn't just about me - it's about everyone who doesn't want to live in a world where every message is suspicious and privacy is a luxury 

We won't give up that easily. And we definitely won't stay silent ✊

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Show threadNatanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Sep 30, 2025
@ppaluchowski64 @EUCommission You forget that they could just enforce integration on OS level (i.e. Android, iOS, Windows and Mac that means - the Linux kernel and DEs would simply reject and get the fuck out of the EU). Any system that tries to prevent scanning would most likely be outlawed, as they "support criminals". And since it's a slippery slope, once they realize they can't force all software devs they'd simply go one layer deeper and force hardware manufacturers to include backdoors.
Show threadNatanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Sep 30, 2025
@ppaluchowski64 @EUCommission That's the thing - if a state decides for mass surveillance they'll simply sink billions into making it work, going further and further down the supply chain until they find a pathway to excert the control they desire. I don't see how we could defend ourselves from the EU by the means of tech.