#Fediversequestion

Could #Friendica or #Hubzilla be useful for:
- a #calendar (suitable for people in various time zones)
- a #wiki
- collaborative, so that if one person leaves or deletes, the rest of the group can carry on / restore

Context
- organizing #WatchParty on #Mastodon, #Bluesky etc
- tracking watched movies
- other related info & tips

See https://ohai.social/@klu9/115204371429347200

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klu9 (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Is there a Fediverse equivalent of a page where we could track what movies have been shown in #SundayFunnies #FridayThrillerClub #MondayActionMovie #Comedon #KungFuSat etc? I think #Monsterdon already has a "history" page https://monsterdon-replay.gerlach.dev/

ohai.social
@klu9 Hubzilla can probably do what you're looking for.

Wikis can be made collaborative by using the permissions system. The safe way is to only allow certain contacts to edit your wikis (you can only give permissions to edit all wikis on a channel) by making a contact role that includes that permission and assigning that contact role to those connections which shall be allowed to edit the wikis.

That said, this requires OpenWebAuth magic sign-on to work. This means that only Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte users can edit your wikis and only locally by visiting the channel with the wikis on them. Hubzilla recognises their login via OpenWebAuth, it recognises that someone is visiting the channel who has permission to edit the wikis on the channel, and it will let that someone edit the wikis.

They cannot edit a wiki on another channel from their own channel.

Also, Hubzilla's wiki engine is nothing like MediaWiki. It uses either BBcode or Markdown for formatting with a few wiki-specific additions. Also, it lacks certain features such as categories or automatic generation of tables of content.

Making calendars collaborative takes a bigger step: To my best knowledge, it requires the permission for contacts to administer the whole channel. There is no channel-sharing feature, and there is no channel-editing permission, neither for the event calendar nor for CalDAV calendars. (Hubzilla has two fully separate calendar systems that share the same UI.)

The administration permission makes it possible for Hubzilla contacts that have this permission to edit CalDAV calendars on a channel which gave them the admin permission from their own channel. However, CalDAV calendars don't generate federated event objects, only the event calendar does, and the event calendar has to be edited locally by visiting the channel with the event calendar on it. In fact, Friendica, (streams) and Forte users can only edit calendars locally.

Again, this only works with Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte contacts because they're the only ones with OpenWebAuth.

Friendica doesn't have wikis. And while Friendica does have an event calendar, only accounts on the same Friendica node can be given admin access so they can edit it. Friendica accounts on other nodes can't, and neither can anyone else in the Fediverse.

Lastly, there are precious few Fediverse server applications that even understand event objects. Mastodon doesn't, for example.

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@jupiter_rowland

Thanks so much for the in-depth info!

I will read docs, watch videos & experiment with Hubzilla to try to understand better.

Is it true wiki function on Hubzilla is an optional app?

So far, I can't find it on my instance hubzilla.diaspo.it (Looking in Featured Apps / App Collections / Installed Apps and Available Apps)

Do I have to join a different instance?

#Hubzilla #Fediverse #FediverseQuestion #FediHelp #Collaboration

@klu9 hubzilla.diaspo.it
Yes, you're on a super-minimalist hub with only three apps activated: ActivityPub, diaspora*, statistics.

By the way, you can check any Hubzilla hub yourself by adding /siteinfo/json after the domain, like so: https://hubzilla.diaspo.it/siteinfo/json

Fortunately, Hubzilla is nomadic, so instead of starting over, you can clone or move your channel.

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@klu9 #Hubzilla definitely has a calendar and wiki. And rights and roles can also be defined very precisely there.
@klu9 I wonder if #Bookwyrm could be adapted for such purposes? I haven't used it yet but my understanding is that people are able to use it for social book cataloging.

@growfediverse

I hadn't noticed that Bookwyrm also offers tracking. Not sure how happy any instance admins would be if we used it for films

But your idea reminded me of NeoDB, fediverse service for reviews of movies & more

Reviews on it are 90% in Chinese but if usable for tracking, that wouldn't matter.

Trying it now, it does have tracking! (Not sure if that can be group)

I don't see a group calendar for future films, or wiki, so still looking into Hubzilla for those

#Hubzilla #NeoDB