Jim Brown voted for Trump to get all those immigrants deported. Unfortunately, his own wife is from Ireland, so Trump is now deporting her.
I have met floorboards more intelligent than MAGA voters.
Jim Brown voted for Trump to get all those immigrants deported. Unfortunately, his own wife is from Ireland, so Trump is now deporting her.
I have met floorboards more intelligent than MAGA voters.
It's so obvious we can't even call it Karma... 🤷
> I have met floorboards more intelligent than MAGA voters.
Well, actually that's democracy.
It dosent explain or justify what Trump and the GOP are doing without any decisions in congress, without any justification by laws, morals or common sense.
USA had 4 years to sentence Trump, and missed the chance.
Put away for the moment the fact that some districts are already gerrymandered and rigged in some kind since long time, actually the people decided for the tyrants.
The elections are fundamental aspect of democracy, so even if 100% vote for the Tyrant, till then it's still democracy -- no matter about the intelligence of the voters.
Referring to the original posting of @randahl , every voter has the freedom to vote for whatever reasons wrong, bad-informed or with some strategical instead of direct reasons.
As you mentioned civil liberties and human rights it might be interesting to verify it further concerning the USA. What Republicans achieved to make elections harder or to count votes im-balanced is certainly critical for the democracy, not only since Trump.
@FaithinBones ”Tyranny of the plurality of the people who are allowed to vote and actually vote” is a bit long and also not what the phrase is. Disenfranchisement is a huge problem.
Still not ”the minority”, because there are many minorities. There are lots of conspiracy theories about e.g. LGBT people being the ruling minority (very popular right now in connection to the murder of a certain person), so I would be very careful with that.
@randahl I'm torn on this.
She "made restitution and received probation", but Trump's OBB Bill likely disregarded that. All this for $25 that was eventually paid?
So, two thoughts:
- Leave the US. Move to Ireland. They'll enjoy it. No fascists.
- This is what they voted for.
While I'd like to lean to the second point, it doesn't help. I'd say they should leave the US and enjoy their lives in Ireland. Then they should go on TV and explain why Trump's an asshole, and how he's destroying the US.
@darkpaw @randahl Those of us who didn't vote for this are getting it, so I'm not going to spare a single bit of sympathy for anyone who DID vote for it getting caught up in it.
The helpful part is "if you don't want people impacted by this sort of bullshit, don't vote for this sort of bullshit." Many of us understood what was at stake (and didn't care whether it impacted us personally); maybe next time, they will, too.
If there is a next time.
@darkpaw @randahl And in hindsight, I actually find the first point less helpful: not only did they feel like they could vote the "undesirables" away, but now that they found out they're part of the "undesirables," they ostensibly have the privilege to fuck off to outside the reach of the regime they helped bring to power, leaving the people who didn't vote for said bullshit, still impacted.
Lucky them.
@randahl They always only recognize their errors when it becomes personal. I have no sympathies for these guys. And i'd really hope that more of these examples would surface to demonstrate that voting actually matters and people should think hard what they vote for in the next election.
And that does't only count for the USA.
"What’s bad is that Trump is so demeaning to people, and he’s so condescending and so retaliatory that people are afraid to say anything."
As they didn't know since 2016.
Cannot make this stuff up…
in Dutch its "dom als een deur" - I can sometimes (very slowly) read Danish by translating it into Dutch.
Although these days there are smartdoors (I had to program the keyfobs for many of these in my last job, they had the most cursed software and weren't even that secure)
@randahl "Brown, who served in the navy and marines for decades, said he had supported Trump’s promise to deport “criminal illegal immigrants” but that federal authorities were targeting other people to reach quotas."
The denial that the line between what is "criminal illegal" or not can be arbitrarily moved to suit the needs of an authoritarian power, and that his wife was actually considered as such by the Trump administration, is very strong here.
"Her husband, Jim Brown, a US citizen and military veteran, told reporters his wife was not a criminal and that he “100%” regretted voting for Donald Trump as president."
When he loses his medical coverage and pension he gets to 100% regret it twice more.
Because she's white.
If black or hispanic she would have gotten a jail term, and likely a referral to immigration for deportation.
Not what you meant, but the reality even in pre-Trump America.
@jetton @randahl definitely not what I meant at all! 😆
Seriously... Bad cheque, to me, means it bounced. Here in Canada a bad cheque incurs a fee charged to you by the bank. That's it. You don't get charged with a crime. I'm sure you'd be reported if you were constantly scamming people with bad cheques but that would become a fraud investigation and carry heavier penalties.
Is there some other definition of bad cheque that I'm not aware of?
And that is still how most banks handle it, especially if it was just an unintentional error. Often you just have to pay a bank fee and a penalty to the recipient, so a total of under $200. But if they report it to the police, you will most likely be charged with a misdemeanor. No prior arrests, likely it'll just be probation and a fine. And court costs. And probation fees. And drug testing fees, etc.
But depends a lot where you are in the US and your skin color.
Suck it up, buttercup. At this point I just laugh at this shit and have zero sympathy. I'm glad there are people willing to reach out and connect with these people and empathize and help them see the folly of their bigoted, small minded ways… But right now I'm not one of them.
And, honestly? Does anyone think these people are going to make the connection between the injustice inflicted upon them and the injustice inflicted upon immigrants who are not white and don't speak English as their primary language? Let's just say I'm not holding my breath. They'll probably somehow blame it all on antifa and Democrats.
@randahl I'm kind of surprised that they also target people who could be so very obviously their own electorate. It's a very grim kind of fair, maybe even unbiased, but I wouldn't have expected that.
They must have been dumb enough to set the quotas so high that the ones lower in the food chain resort to arrest middle-aged white women for banalities to fill them.
What is even sadder is that the Jim Browns would have never realised how evil all of it is if they had just continued to only target people of colour who also have done nothing more than his wife.