Except #VIA failed to make their #Chips & #iGPU|s available en masse at a reasonable price point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MklPBVPSp0

#ViaNano #Nostalgia #RetroComputing #Netbooks #Netbook

VIA Nano-based OpenBook vs. Intel Atom-based Asus Eee PC

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@kkarhan worked on a lot of boards that had that cpu. Industrial PC board makers were a big user and a company I worked for at the time turned them into various bespoke PC and STB products.

@slaine I know. #VIA did keep a foot in #embedded since they were still offering new C7 chips in 2016 and are only beaten by like DM&P's #Vortex86 SoC's and their #ICOP-branded #SOM|s...

  • The main problem was just that many cool ideas they did - like the #Artigo in 5,25" form factor - were never available outside of closed "big" #B2B-only distributors where one needs to first sign up as a client to even be allowed to browse their catalog and have to fax or call to get actual pricing info.

This is why #RaspberryPi (and to an extent #DMP) own the market, as I can literally just order either conveniently online with not much of a hassle.

  • The #OpenBook by VIA is one of the inspirations for the #NUCbook, tho that's because #UCFF is actually an Open Standard as it's dimensions and port arrangements are normed, so one can actually support it.

https://github.com/KBtechnologies/nucbook

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@kkarhan 💯 on the missed opportunity. But there’s an element of hindsight is 20/20 there too. I’ve never seen figures but it seemed to me that they sold a truck load of product with that arrangement at the time.

@slaine But even a "truckload" is basically not much compared to #Intel & #AMD, because #VIA basically never did anything beyond "#LowEnd", #Chipset, #Peripherals and #Embedded, whereas with both Intel & AMD one can go from the tinyiest < 5W SoC for fanless Thin Clients up to Dual & Quad-Socket Multt-Core Servers that have more PCIe lanes than any systems integrator could saturate with NVMe drives and GPUs in a 2U - 4U chassis!

  • And again: I wanted to get my hands on VIA stuff because it was neat and cool looking but I wasn't in the position to open up like a GmbH and negotiate deals with distributors just to get my hands on some reference board & case.

Whereas AMD & Intel managed to make deals with a shitload of OEMs and that's why modern #ThinClients rock AMD G-Series and Intel Atom SoCs.

  • So far their move to making #ARM-SoC's didn't change that but rather worsen it.

Add to that how the German subsidiary of VIA got axed and there wasn't even like someone I could mail or fax for a list of distributors that would actually sell to me as an individual.

@slaine But alas since #VIA isn't interested in making money with #ix86 / #amd64 c ompatible chips (or rather sold of that division to China) I'm gonna do something else...
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@slaine Personally, I'm looking at #FrugalComputing with @OS1337 and decided to follow @rasteri 's lead and try some #PC104Plus board design (#tiny486) for #RetroHardware because old & dying machines are not a good reference solution for #i486...

https://github.com/os-1337/tiny486

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@kkarhan i must check this out, thanks.

@slaine np. Contributions & Feedback welcome.

tiny486/documentation/acknowledgements.tsv at main · OS-1337/tiny486

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