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Resistor McResistanceFace"I was only torrenting so I can make valid on-line reviews for your AI" - my lastest reply to those Concast emails
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kolya@spellingmistakescostlives I like the attitude but it's the same fallacy as those "You wouldn't download a car"-ads. a digital copy is not taking anything physical away. it takes away work and creativity and a lot of other hard to quantify values that people nevertheless get paid for.
by showing the thief taking the result of this work, it also falls into the "content" trap.
by showing the thief taking the result of this work, it also falls into the "content" trap.
Magnus Ahltorp@kolya @spellingmistakescostlives But if we extend “train AI” to just all techbro behaviour, we have things that are actually taking physical things away, like scooter companies just unilaterally annexing public street space by placing scooters there.
Even if we stay in the “train AI” space, “AI” crawlers are now causing real harm to web server operators by uncontrollably bombarding them with queries.
@ahltorp @spellingmistakescostlives I guess we can agree that communicating and illustrating the actual damage is difficult.
Jay 🇺🇦
CyPictures of locust swarms, demonic hoards, stampeding cattle, getting buried in corpses, caption: "WHATS WRONG WERE JUST TRAINING OUR AI"
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frox@kolya @spellingmistakescostlives there is one key difference. The private use is usually for personal consumption, not for profit and not to create any derivative works.
The "AI" scraping is definitely for profit, intended to be a way to avoid paying creators for their work by reproducing it for free and then selling it to as many people as possible
The "AI" scraping is definitely for profit, intended to be a way to avoid paying creators for their work by reproducing it for free and then selling it to as many people as possible
@kolya @spellingmistakescostlives
Eh.
Unlike piracy, AI does actually rapidly take the art away by deleting artists' jobs plus AI resells other people's art which is not how napster worked.
So while we all realize that digital copying does not delete the original, we should not apply stricter rules to our defense against fascist big tech than big tech itself keeps applying to us.
The picture is not accurate but it's so much closer to accurate than the original campaign.
@Soulshine @spellingmistakescostlives
The argument against piracy at the time was the same: that it destroys jobs in the film and music industry. That didn't happen to any significant degree and it remains to be seen if AI does this sort of damage. Reselling might be a point. Then again P2P networks like eMule and BitTorrent also uploaded to others which can be understood as redistributing for zero price, ie much cheaper than the original work was sold at. Similar to how AI is cheaper.
The argument against piracy at the time was the same: that it destroys jobs in the film and music industry. That didn't happen to any significant degree and it remains to be seen if AI does this sort of damage. Reselling might be a point. Then again P2P networks like eMule and BitTorrent also uploaded to others which can be understood as redistributing for zero price, ie much cheaper than the original work was sold at. Similar to how AI is cheaper.
@kolya So if I copy all the files from your hard drive without your permission, that's fine because it's not taking anything physical away?
If a digital copy is not theft why did OpenAI accuse DeepSeek of stealing their intellectual property? https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing
OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists
After spending years indiscriminately ripping off other people's work, OpenAI is trying to pin blame on Chinese AI startup DeepSeek.
Alex@spellingmistakescostlives why the Slavic looking fella?
@alex02 what makes him Slavic looking?
Jonathan@spellingmistakescostlives someone should steal the AI companies' proprietary models. I guess it's not theft 🤣
@jmcrookston It's been done, and obviously OpenAI were livid without any sense of irony
https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing
https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing
OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists
After spending years indiscriminately ripping off other people's work, OpenAI is trying to pin blame on Chinese AI startup DeepSeek.
@spellingmistakescostlives I'm not even surprised.
@spellingmistakescostlives Sam Altman is another con artist
Tim Chambers@spellingmistakescostlives I so hope this is really official….
My Actual Brain@spellingmistakescostlives uhh... yes, all these Linux ISOs are for training my AI algorithm...
Multi Purr Puss 
@spellingmistakescostlives @fink Arrr, matey! It's not theft if the owner gets to keep the original. Arrr! 🏴☠️ 🤣
OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists
After spending years indiscriminately ripping off other people's work, OpenAI is trying to pin blame on Chinese AI startup DeepSeek.
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@spellingmistakescostlives For more information please reread
Tor Lillqvist@spellingmistakescostlives @paavi Yeah, confusing theft of physical objects with violating copyright is exactly what we need for a sensible discussion about these matters. (Sarcasm.)
Tzimisce Flesh@tml @spellingmistakescostlives @paavi As fun as AI-bashing and pointing out the hypocrisy is, yeah, using the same rhetoric as Disney and Microsoft is not the best means to go about it.
Ylönën@flesh @spellingmistakescostlives @tml While I agree, I also find this to be appropriate satire on the matter.
@flesh @paavi @tml How about using the same rhetoric as OpenAI?
https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing
https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing
OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists
After spending years indiscriminately ripping off other people's work, OpenAI is trying to pin blame on Chinese AI startup DeepSeek.
Jonathan Schofield@spellingmistakescostlives masterful.
Now wondering how many occurences of the letter ‘a’ the latest Large Larceny Model thinks there are in ‘balaclava’?
https://mastodon.social/@kjhealy/114990301650917094
oscar@spellingmistakescostlives is it a genuine gouvernemental ad ?
@oscar No but it's based on a genuine government policy
Sophia
The Animal and the Machine@spellingmistakescostlives @emory
I like this even though it’s not entirely accurate. The internet is free to read so it’s fine to build your AI model on it, however your AI is a construction of other people’s work so you can’t use it without crediting it and paying for it. Basically impossible.
The music industry killed sampling and tape deck style remix on this very point so it has prescient. Only when selling the use of the AI it’s theft.
So this picture is wrong but fuck the nuance, it communicates the idea perfectly.
Mad Engineering@spellingmistakescostlives How about we keep this in mind when we rob a bank next week for the starter capital for the company we swear we're about to found? 😵💫