European CommissionJul 26
🏠 Housing is a right, not a privilege. 
  
Yet affordable, quality homes are out of reach for too many across Europe - especially young people, families, and vulnerable groups. 
  
The EU is acting with its Affordable Housing Plan: tackling structural barriers, boosting supply, and unlocking investment.  
  
️🗣️ Have your say.  
A public consultation is open until 17 October. 
  
Ready to shape the future of housing in Europe?  
→ https://europa.eu/!6fHwB3
Show threadSomeVeganCheeseIsOkJul 26
@EUCommission I disagree. I don't think it's a right. I do think it's a sensible and frugal step in a society where no land is unowned, and only stupid and malicious societies would leave housing up to chance. But I don't think it's a right.
Show threadKevin Karhan Jul 26

@SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @EUCommission try to exist without a legal address...

  • It's literally illegal in most places!

Also the #UN says #Housing is a #HumanRight.

Show threadSomeVeganCheeseIsOkJul 26
@kkarhan @EUCommission I don't think that you can have a human right that requires labor from others to provide. Ie, I don't see medical care as a human right, because it requires labor from others. I do think you have the right to seek medical care and denial of medical care is a violation of righs, and you have the right to seek housing and denial of housing is a violation of rights. And if housing is *not* provided, homelessness cannot be made criminal.
Show threadKevin Karhan Jul 26

@SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @EUCommission That's not how #HumanRights work, m8!

OFC things incur labour. But in a functioning society that gets rewarded beyond monetary compensation.

Or to put it in simple terms: Fed, housed, educated and healthy citizens don't want to nonconsensually 'redistribute wealth' in their own terms.

  • It's called "#SocialPeace" and many places seem to have forgotten that this is in the interest of the wealthy if they don't want a mob of disenfrancised people to change their pronouns to was/were nonverbally…
Show threadSomeVeganCheeseIsOkJul 26
@kkarhan @EUCommission Natural resources required for survival are rights. Clean air, clean water, soil that's not poisoned.
Show threadKevin Karhan 
@SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @EUCommission So food and shelter ain't essential for survival?
Jul 26 at 1:46pmWeb
Show threadSomeVeganCheeseIsOkJul 26

@kkarhan That's not my argument. I can see exactly where you're coming from, but I don't think "the essentials for survival must be provided to you free of charge" is a human right.

I have the right to not be discriminated against in buying food. I have the right to obtain food. I have the right to obtain food which hasn't got microplastics or PFAS or sugar or metal shavings in it.

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Show threadSomeVeganCheeseIsOkJul 26

@kkarhan Nobody is on the hook to give me food for free. That's my problem to solve. Except for the fact that we have built a society in which it is not possible to produce your own food, and often not possible to get a job without housing.

The thing about making housing and food a human right is that it's situational: it's necessary to provide it *if* you have consumed all available space and people have no ability to provide for themselves through the fault of circumstances.