@stux I don't know enough about animal behavior to be sure I'm not anthropomorphizing the elephant's behavior, but I'm choosing to call what I see there empathy.
It is unlikely that even if managing to survive for the coming millennia, elephants will evolve to manipulate tools the way current humans can.
But, if they already have an intelligence that allows for empathy, how much more *Techne* do they actually need?
@stux Humans: incredible manipulation of wealth and technology. High anxiety.
Dolphins: Incredible athletes. All the fish they can eat.
Until humans kill them all with rising water temperatures.
@danjewett @stux yeah, that is 100% empathy, in a deeply undeniable way. And shame on the zoo keepers for not making sure there was a gradual slope out.
There was empathy and intelligence. I would say there was specific care taken to NOT injure a smaller animal in the process.
This is so heartwarming, kindness is everywhere. The determination to want to help ๐๐๐
I never understood why people want to kill so many other species, and that they don't realise they can think, play, have fun, invent games, have a bad mood, have a crazy zoomies mood, et cetera. We, other animals included, are all intelligent enough to do these things, which, I always thought, implies we're creatures with feelings who deserve to live.
Oh yes, I so remember when humans told me I was anthropomorphising. I would say that it's weird and even haughty to think other animals cannot have the same, or similar feelings and qualities. It's a long time ago but this is still going on, sadly, so if you can help that would be great! ๐
It's sickening & anthropocentric pontification from a pedestal, and drives me nuts too. I feel so sad for all the animals. They also use cats and dogs. Beagles are among the favourite dogs for lab experiments because they are 'too sweet' to protest and have a high pain tolerance. Reading about this years ago made me sick.
There is an adoption organisation here for lab beagles. They require humans with a lot of patience & love to resocialise.
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I was sad when I heard about it, but there are good people like you to give them a forever home ๐
Very cool ๐ ๐ข
@stux In a related way, is it creepy if I just stand at the foot of the subway stairs and offer to carry suitcases all day long for free ? Specifically thinking about line 6 at Montparnasse-Bienvenรผe. I never fail to see people in need of a lift but don't know how weird that would be, giving it for everyone.