#Mastodon is there to help
@stux Gotta keep the water from getting too dirty. :D

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๐Ÿ˜: GET OUT OF THE PUNCHBOWL!!!

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@stux christlicher als die CDU. Oder wie die CDU sagen wรผrde: "Legt der Schlepperbande das Handwerk!"
@stux Won't be the worst thing if humans don't make it.

@stux I don't know enough about animal behavior to be sure I'm not anthropomorphizing the elephant's behavior, but I'm choosing to call what I see there empathy.

It is unlikely that even if managing to survive for the coming millennia, elephants will evolve to manipulate tools the way current humans can.

But, if they already have an intelligence that allows for empathy, how much more *Techne* do they actually need?

@stux Humans: incredible manipulation of wealth and technology. High anxiety.

Dolphins: Incredible athletes. All the fish they can eat.

@danjewett @stux

Until humans kill them all with rising water temperatures.

@danjewett @stux yeah, that is 100% empathy, in a deeply undeniable way. And shame on the zoo keepers for not making sure there was a gradual slope out.

There was empathy and intelligence. I would say there was specific care taken to NOT injure a smaller animal in the process.

@Urban_Hermit @danjewett @stux There was an obvious care not to use more strength than needed.

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This is so heartwarming, kindness is everywhere. The determination to want to help ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—

I never understood why people want to kill so many other species, and that they don't realise they can think, play, have fun, invent games, have a bad mood, have a crazy zoomies mood, et cetera. We, other animals included, are all intelligent enough to do these things, which, I always thought, implies we're creatures with feelings who deserve to live.

@pascaline @stux
Yes, we have to keep reminding people and scientists especially (Iโ€™m a budding scientist so I hope to help create this change too!) about this fact. IT IS NOT anthropomorphizing , it is actually looking and seeing what is actually happening in the world ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿฉท Jane Goodall has it right.

@em_and_future_cats

Oh yes, I so remember when humans told me I was anthropomorphising. I would say that it's weird and even haughty to think other animals cannot have the same, or similar feelings and qualities. It's a long time ago but this is still going on, sadly, so if you can help that would be great! ๐Ÿ’—

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@pascaline @stux
I just took an โ€œanimal behavior classโ€ this past semester and it drove me literally nuts when they kept โ€œinsistingโ€ that animals canโ€™t sense fear etc etc. and that the correct way to describe it is โ€œelevated level of cortisol or adrenalineโ€ which is definitely NOT what we describe when we diagnose humans. So yeah, I will continue to push for reform when it comes to scientific definitions and research!

@em_and_future_cats

It's sickening & anthropocentric pontification from a pedestal, and drives me nuts too. I feel so sad for all the animals. They also use cats and dogs. Beagles are among the favourite dogs for lab experiments because they are 'too sweet' to protest and have a high pain tolerance. Reading about this years ago made me sick.
There is an adoption organisation here for lab beagles. They require humans with a lot of patience & love to resocialise.

https://www.shhh.nl/bent-beagle-proof/
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Bent u Beagle proof ? โ€“ Stichting Hulp en Herplaatsing Huisdieren

@pascaline @stux
Awww poor babies! ๐Ÿ˜ฟ
Thank you for sharing ๐Ÿฉท
I will keep this for when Iโ€™m able to adopt a doggie ๐Ÿฉท (And yes I will be extra sure of taking care of them WELL before I adopt ๐Ÿฉท)

@em_and_future_cats

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I was sad when I heard about it, but there are good people like you to give them a forever home ๐Ÿ˜Š

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@stux elephants are too good for this world....

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Very cool ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜ข

@stux I can't help it. Every time I see a heffalump, I hear the "Pachyderm Parade" song from the film Jungle Book :-)

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Wonderful.

I wish humans were as kind as that to all peoples.

@stux Alternate caption: "Get out of my drink."

@mason @stux

One does not want dead Elands in their drinking fountain, for sure

@darwinwoodka @mason @stux except in the notable case of making eland soup
@stux thanks, I needed that.
@stux Yay, helpy elephant!
@stux Awww. This is completely different than the horror I just saw (Ukrane).
@stux I like how it goes over afterward and checks in with it.
@stux Sometimes, they also only call for help and let the humans do this:
https://www.newsweek.com/elephant-calls-humans-help-save-drowning-antelope-1707336
Watch As Elephant Calls for Humans To Help To Save Drowning Antelope

The Asian elephant can be seen pacing around the pool and trumpeting, calling for help, as the antelope struggles to stay afloat.

Newsweek

@stux In a related way, is it creepy if I just stand at the foot of the subway stairs and offer to carry suitcases all day long for free ? Specifically thinking about line 6 at Montparnasse-Bienvenรผe. I never fail to see people in need of a lift but don't know how weird that would be, giving it for everyone.

#Montparnasse

@stux the cruel struggle for survival in the wild