In a blow to NATO, a mere eight years into its three-year overhaul, and after sinking in its dry dock, going on fire, having a crane fall on it, losing its entire crew to facilitate an illegal invasion, having most of its reconstruction materials embezzled and going on fire again, Russian media is suggesting that strategic rust reserve and occasional environmental disaster Admiral Kuznetsov might not be returning to "service" after all...

#FailureFriday

@DreadShips how the fuck does one sink in a dry dock?
@DrHyde it's a rare talent, for sure (the dry dock also sank)
@DreadShips maybe the dry dock was trying to run away. Can't blame it really.

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You'll love this. It's not supposed to be used for years on end to host a carrier, so it was getting on in age.

It was used for years because Russians don't actually have a dock big enough to host the Carrier, they were all in Ukraine.

Then, one day, the new shift found that the extra diesel for the generators, that pump out the water from the dock, was missing. Old age and no pumps meant it sank very quickly.

Why no diesel? The manager was selling the extra for money.

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The dry dock in question had quite the chequered history itself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD-50

PD-50 - Wikipedia

@DrHyde @DreadShips The (floating) dry dock sank.

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Looks new in that pic which means... it always smoked that much?

@tarheel yup, it's pretty much always been like that (one of the things the refit was supposed to do was convert it to burning something that couldn't be detected by blocking out the sun from 200 miles away)
@DreadShips Damm
.. Now we germans finally habe build the Zeppelin
@DreadShips Is that picture of it on fire, or just steaming normally?
@darkling it's just the way it rolls
@DreadShips I'm now expecting it to have a Confederate flag stern sticker and a pair of plastic testicles attached.

@darkling @DreadShips https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazut

Soviet warship steam plants were designed for cheap fuel.

Mazut - Wikipedia

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“Strategic rust reserve” 👏👏👏

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That's truly... Unfortunate.

(Strangled laughter) 🤭

@DreadShips It has arguably been one of NATO's greatest assets. The Russians must allow there to be an expensive-airplanes-falling-off-ships gap!

@DreadShips iirc, she has a sister ship currently living her best life in the Indian Navy, she's not the only ship of her class.

A quick search shows I was incorrect, her sister ship was the Varyag, and was sold incomplete to China, who finished her. So...Yeah, I guess that counts as the only completed ship of her class as her half sister completely outclasses her.

As in, it became a functional ship in the Chinese navy

@TeflonTrout I believe the reviews from the Chinese were... mixed.

It gave them a head start on working out how to actually run carrier ops within Chinese naval doctrine, but was perhaps most useful as a "here's quite a few things to improve..."

@DreadShips @TeflonTrout Judging by the rapid high quality builds commercial Chinese yards can make, I wonder they bothered with a military clunker. I guess it was cheaper than a new big graving dock?

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It could be they were just following the rich tradition of receiving, copying, then improving Soviet designs. Seems like more than a few Chinese weapons trace their lineage either to or through the USSR

@TeflonTrout @DreadShips Surely very possible. But I’d suspect a twin-track approach of keeping older party members happy with the Soviet tradition they were familiar with, in parallel with building up the upcoming considerable Chinese talent to supersede it.

Nobody wants to repeat the embarrassing Soviet slavish copying of the mistakes in Western designs.

@TeflonTrout @DreadShips Rereading that, I wouldn’t want to imply that Soviet designs were all awful, when the management were not involved, they could be terrific, especially considering the lack of integrated ic tech.

eg a lot of Soyuz hardware, such as:

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*gentle gasp* A map in Kerbal Navball form!

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I think what you meant to say is, "What a relief. We were trembling in our boots at the thought of the mighty Admiral Kuznetsov ruling the seas once more. It is such good news knowing that Russia will no longer be wasting, er... wisely using so many resources to deploy such a mighty symbol of Russian military power."
@DreadShips The engine room looks like it is powered by Tommy Chong.
@DreadShips Ukrainian missiles will be disappointed

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It is very impressive looking!

I'm not going to be more specific about what that impression is, beyond mentioning "Jimmy Durante".

@DreadShips ::applause:: I've thrown a fair bit of shade at Kuzny, but "strategic rust reserve" is sublime. Kudos.
@DreadShips Shouldn’t we act if we were afraid of that ship in order for the Russians to keep investing in it?
@masek we've managed to keep them going this far, but there's only so long you can keep a straight face
@DreadShips it is an ex-carrier, it has ceased to sea.
@DreadShips A pity for the world to lose the only coal-fired aircraft carrier, really.