RedditsuxNational pride is declining in America. And it's splitting by party lines, new Gallup polling shows
originaluciferno shit, sherlock.
zero reason to be proud of a fascist government.
fuck the 4th of july.
š° š š± š¦ š³ š¦ š° š® Good point. And now I gotta go check if there are going to be more protests planned around here for the 4th.
I need to look for one as well 50501 is not showing one in my area.
undefinedYeah. Iām not going to any celebrations of the country this weekend. I donāt have it in me to be patriotic right now. Itās wild how far weāve fallen in the past decade. And flabbergasting how much further we fell over the last 6 months.
I never thought Iād literally be stocking up on ammunition over political shifts in the US. Thatās what the crazies on the right do.
Only reason Iām gonna set off fireworks is for my kid. He turned 5 in May and has been begging me to set off fireworks for the 4th.
Great, so youāre organizing with your fellow veterans to do something about it, right?
šMedicPigš·BabySaveršIāve never been diagnosed with āclinical depressionā.
Iām guessing now it would be āyesā.
My country is completely losing itās shit and even an Ocean wide bidet isnāt good enough to clean the asses of 75 million Harris voters.
Snot FlickermanThe bootlickers literally dipped in pride of America when Trump was voted out. Became more prideful when he got back in.
They have no capacity for critical thinking or competent understanding of anything at all. A bunch of knuckle dragging idiots.
solsangraalfuck this stupid country
explodicleDonāt they rely on increasing national pride and with it, national identity? They need a steady supply of useful idiots who buy into the bullshit.
vaultdweller013They have stirred up national pride, shame for them that they pulled an Austria-Hungary and are stirring up a springtime of nations. The US aināt a nation itās an ideological empire with a disintegrating ideological foundation.
So, has anyone actually read the 1,000+ pages of the Big Bill?
Because if you did, I promise you wouldnāt be celebrating a time America gained her independence knowing that our government is about to rewrite history just so they can have a big old tax break with the blood of Americans on their hands. Democracy was a nice 250-year project while she lasted, but sheās at her end now thanks to the greed of a few, it appears.
I could have told you that without a poll. What a joke
Boomer Humor DoomergodIn order to feel patriotic youāll have to have failed history.
What did we expect? Government is looking out for itself or anyone big enough to pay for a seat at the table.
Republicans appear to be driven by hate and ignorance of the things they do
Democrats appear to do nothing for the people either.
We have lost faith in the courts ability to stand up for the rule of law. Sure we protest. Yell at our elected officials but at the end of the day it seems like we keep picking the worst thing and diving head first.
I know Iām projecting a bit here but itās so exhausting to keep up and it wears us out
Sure keep voting for what you want and what not. Doesnāt help with itās red vs blue and both sides are a shit sandwich and the only choice for sides are bigotry or compliances.
Can confirm. Proud of my state (CA) but almost zero pride left for my country. Trying to figure out if I should flee the continent or start building guillotines.
I identify as a Californian first. My US passport holder has stickers of the Californian flag. Many Europeans may dislike the USA right now, but you tell them youāre from California, or they see a California flag sticker on your passport holder, wallet, or phone, and then they wonāt be so icy.
This is the result of the Republican party, starting at least with the Bush neocons, weaponizing patriotism to be a way to slander their critics, and to publicly demonstrate their allegiance to the conservative movement.
After a couple decades now of conservative pundits and politicians responding to criticism by implying their opponents donāt love America as much as they do, or even trying to stifle conversation by demanding everyone profess their love of America on the spot, I think everyone else is pretty sick and tired of the flags and pins and stars-and-stripes punisher tee shirts.
Weāve been living in it. Itās happening.
I think everyone else is pretty sick and tired
From where the rest of us are standing, āeveryone elseā is WAY too comfortable with it
Talked to a guy a couple months ago about Trump being re-elected and he literally told me that āat least we can now fly American flags againā now that Biden was out.
I just stared at him likeā¦ what the fuck are you talking about dude??
CharlesDarwinSounds like he was one of the sharpest bulbs, so to speak.
I am still reeling at talking to someone that not only said we can now say āMerry Xmasā again, thanks to Taco (WTAF?!!!), and said it with not even a whiff of irony. While I was still laughing, he said he hopes that Taco will be able to fix the terrible Biden economy.
This guy is not suffering in the slightest. His wife pays for most everything, and he has steady work. Fixed mortgage. Maybe there was a slight uptick here in inflation, even if it was lower than so many other countries. This guy didnāt feel it. But he was standing there and telling me right while Taco was wiping about 20% out of my savings due to cratering the market and thus everyoneās 401K, that Taco was going to āfixā this so-called terrible economy of Bidenās.
Straight the fuck outta 1984. And I know people say āthe financial markets are not the economyā, but they are HIGHLY correlated, so that dog wonāt hunt. If the market crashes, people donāt care about the S&P are still going to be affected.
āWe love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America like a 4-year-old loves his mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad and helping your loved one grow.ā
-Al Franken
Yes, I think of his discussion about REAL patriotism all the time. Iāve had that ingrained in my since I was a child by my hippie parents. I freaking love this place. But it doesnāt come without a LOT of qualifiers.
And Taco and the qons are actively ruining it.
Californian first.
Patriotism itself isnāt bad. I would love to live in country Iām proud of.
As long as there is substance to the reasons for pride, yesā¦
āThe carās on fire and thereās no driver at the wheel. And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows
The government is corrupt And weāre on so many drugs With the radio on and the curtains drawn
Weāre trapped in the belly of this horrible machine. And the machine is bleeding to death. The sun has fallen down. And the billboards are all leering. And the flags are all dead at the top of their polesā
Iām gonna be blasting Godspeed all 4th of July
The Dead Flag Blues
What, exactly, should I be proud of?
A nation that is moving backwards on human rights, increasing wealth inequality, and got really āmask offā about supporting genocide. A nation that is inherently dysfunctional and wreathed in corruption.
huppakeeMy kin have been in North America for nearly 500 years, I am a Californian first, an American-Scot second, and an American last.
PugJesusThe word āproudā implies I had something to do with it. Iām glad to be part of the social experiment, by virtue of being born here. Lots of things to like, most especially the promise in the founding documents and the direction that America was going towards over the years, but that the cons work to thwart at every turn.
And Iām alarmed at the direction that Taco is taking us in. Biden had a great economy, and a return to normalcy at the helm. Taco is working to destroy the economy and remove every single norm and dismantle the rule of law. Nothing to be āproudā of in any of thatā¦