Recently I am more and more angry with Presidents acting like dictators, billionaires who wreck the planet in front of our eyes and another two books full..

I've been told to "'not worry about things you cannot control" over and over

But I cannot make peace with that, and my reply is:

"No, I keep worrying and fighting until I am in a way of control so I can do something about it"

The feeling of "no control" is what they want so they can get away with everything

@stux there are two kinds of people in the world.
The ones who throw up their hands and say “what can I do?”
and the ones who roll up their sleeves and ask “what can I do”.
@CatDragon @stux
I'm feeling stuck in between those, myself.

@CatDragon @stux

I love this response to Stux’s existential crisis (which I & a lot of other people share if this interesting thread is anything to go by!): 🙂

“there are two kinds of people in the world.
The ones who throw up their hands and say “what can I do?”
and the ones who roll up their sleeves and ask “what can I do”.

Stux: thank you for kicking this great discussion off! What did we learn from this? You are not alone! We are not alone!
Hugs to all! 🙂

@CatDragon @stux The key to social progress is getting more people to move from the former to the latter
@stux lil buddy...when I was in school...I was called "uncoachable". I frequently made horrid jokes about my P.E teacher and pleasing his wife...right to his face...for wanting me to "be a team player". And I got away with it. You know why? Because you can't control me. I control myself. That's why I'm "uncoachable". Being uncontrollable is a power to itself. Make them give you your own PE class for the credit. Be uncoachable!!
@stux I feel the same way 🙏
@stux Good energy. I think "don't worry about things you cannot control" may be, in this era, a call to find where the levers are.
@stux I'd say as long as you're turning your anger into action you're fine. Just don't keep it inside and let it eat you up.
@stux "Don't worry about things you cannot control" always made me so angry. How is it even remotely comforting? This is my life, of course I will be worried if I have no control over it.
@pluszysta Kinda yeah, maaaybe it's an issue if so many ppl think that way
@pluszysta @stux The issue with this axiom is it is sound philosophically but is where philosophy fails to move society forward. You personally can feel better, get things done, reach enlightenment, etm by only focusing on what you can control. But enlightenment doesn't kill nazis, bullets do. Read Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Aurelius, Seneca, Descartes, (maybe not Dostoevsky or Kafka they bum me tf out) but also get your "range time in" how ever that looks for you

@stux i keep thinking more and more about how the actions of a few hundred human beings are something we, the other eight billion folks on the planet, "have no control" over

and how much that makes it sound like folks see these people as gods

@matildalove @stux They are more dependent on the infrastructure than the rest of us, by a huge multiple. They use more fuel, power, and labor than the normal person by a factor of 10 to 1000.

If society collapses, well then they are made out of meat like everyone else.

So the argument that the elite are engineering a collapse makes no sense. Elites don't fare well in a true collapse. And most of them do NOT plan well. French and Russian revolutions being obvious examples.

@mike805 dunno how that's relevant to the thread but i agree with the part where rich people are bad at planning (and, typically, at nearly everything they try to do)

@matildalove @mike805 Klein and Taylor’s article on “end times fascism” describes how the likes of Musk, Thiel, and Bannon are trying to end the ruling class’s losing streak. Unlike aristocrats past, their outlook is explicitly apocalyptic, and not just in the sense of foreseeing physical catastrophe. They have a (pseudo-)religious sense that they’ll be revealed to be the worthy ones, precisely by escaping it. So, they *need* the world to end.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/apr/13/end-times-fascism-far-right-trump-musk

The rise of end times fascism

The governing ideology of the far right has become a monstrous, supremacist survivalism. Our task is to build a movement strong enough to stop them

The Guardian

@stux I had the good fortune to stumble upon a series called Facing Collapse Together. There's one more live session left but I believe the past ones were recorded. I highly recommend checking it out. https://www.deanspade.net/projects/facing-collapse-together-study-group/

We're not alone, and solidarity is the only way we might survive.

Facing Collapse Together Study Group – Dean Spade

@stux None of us is as powerful as all of us.
They just want to keep us divided.
Just look what Solidarity accomplished in Poland, that reverberated throughout eastern Europe. It took time and effort. Our struggle in America will also not be easy nor as quick as the way our country was taken over this year.

https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/polands-solidarity-movement-1980-1989/

Poland’s Solidarity Movement (1980-1989) | ICNC

Summary of the political history, nonviolent strategic actions, and ensuing events of Poland's Solidarity Movement from 1980-89.

ICNC
@stux
Yeah, "don't worry about things you can't control" should really be "don't spend your energy worrying about things that are BEYOND control," like supernovas or blackholes, not "when the going gets tough, abandon ship".

@stux

"Don't accept what you cannot change.
Change what you cannot accept "

@stux yep, also a lot of the issues are related to choices people have been making repeatedly for years, and people don't want to admit it.
@stux wait until folks realize where all power that is all around us, everywhere, that we were born into comes from. 👀✌️💙
@stux Boy you describe how I’m feeling as well. And I’m old enough to have gone through the 60’s and protests. It proved that people can make change. 🇺🇸

@carolcook @stux

Thank you so much for that reminder - from recent history! - that people can make change! 🙂

@stux right...just worry when trouble comes to your door & by then it's too late...my husband says the same thing & I know it's just him feeling like he has no control but I doggedly continue on & he's coming around...my part in getting someone's head out of the sand
@stux Paper does not survive being buried for long. No one can way with any certainty that they lacked a highly advanced administrative system. Perhaps they had billionaires too. Perhaps one of them was hell-bent on an apocalypse and started a rocket company and struck a near Earth asteroid, knocking it off course. Eventually that caused it to be pulled deeper into Earth's gravity well, striking the Earth, thus fulfilling their desire for the end of their epoch.
@stux presidents and politicians work for us, but have managed to make sure we forget that. Their power and the money they spend comes from us. They need to be reminded they serve at our pleasure, not think they are some sort of elite

@Offbeatmammal @stux

So true - I’ve been struck by how many ‘activists’ are urging people to contact their elected representatives to express their views & needs for their lives in the future… HOW COME THEIR ELECTED REPS aren’t asking the people how they - the reps- should act?

“presidents and politicians work for us, but have managed to make sure we forget that. Their power and the money they spend comes from us. They need to be reminded they serve at our pleasure, not think they are some sort of elite”

@stux
We don’t have “no control”, we (myself included) lack a willingness to accept the steep consequences of personally fighting.

@stux I’m with you there!

Democracy was supposed to be about everyone having a bit of control.

If you don’t have even that that little bit of control, however small, then it’s not really a democracy is it?

@gimulnautti @stux

Ohhhh…. this is a great way to think about it!

“Democracy was supposed to be about everyone having a bit of control.

If you don’t have even that that little bit of control, however small, then it’s not really a democracy is it?”

Nail on the head!! Thank you! 🙂

@stux 💯 agree with you. Seems that they liked the role of dictator, cause it's so easy to manipulate with your army from the basement, as if you're playing generals in real life. Disgusting.
@stux I think it's a balancing act. Feel responsible, stand up for what you believe in, but also stay healthy. If you worry too much, melt in front of a screen, that shows horrible news all the time and don't find ways to digest it all, then you take away your own power, when power is what you need to have, especially when you want to be able to form a healthy opinion. You can't torture yourself with too much information and you need to take care of yourself, if you want to do something about the problems in the world, but then again it's not good to look away. It's a balancing act.

@stux "I am no longer accepting the things I cannot change. I am changing the things I cannot accept." — Angela Davis

I'm confident you'll find ways to tackle the things you can't accept. More of us need to ask ourselves what is and isn't acceptable, and then fight against the unacceptable.

@stux we can also eat the rich.
@stux well said,it does matter so stay with it
@stux
We greatly outnumber them.

@stux We, the plebs, are the ones in power we just have to convince each other of it. Let's follow the example of the Black Panther Party and make the government irrelivant. Let's feed each other, home and clothe each other, protect each other, defend each other.

The most important thing we can do right now is be a pain in the ass. Be the sand that binds the gears, the barely missed deadline or like @praetor the fucker of the P.E. teachers wife.

@stux

"The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any."
- Alice Walker

@stux As I recall, there is a song to that effect in "The Sound of Music" (a great anti-nazi film, not just a romance).

@stux There's a difference between caring and worrying. Worrying is more obsessive. It's also not that productive because you're worrying instead of acting.

There also is a difference between what you can and cannot change. Worrying about things you can't change blinds you to the things you can. Take god out of it, and the serenity prayer is actually profound even if simple.

You do have to quite that little demon that says you are not worthy or have no control though.

@stux That's the stoic ethos, misunderstood and twisted.

Like, you can't control what your neighbor does, but you can control what you yourself do, and that includes reaching out and building networks of people who think alike, and who are willing to work with you to achieve large-scale change.

@stux Pardon the observation but, from personal experience, worrying and fighting just leave you in a negative frame of mind, or angry or tired. Then, when you can see sth you can do, the action is likely to come from that negative place - this may mean it'll have a negative impact.
Do what's in front of you. Pet the cats. Live in line with world-embracing ethics that no one can argue with. Then, anything you do will make the world a better place, no matter how small.
May you be well. <3