Lokjo - a European online map

UPDATE 2: We're carefully back online again, with a few exceptions:

https://mapstodon.space/@lokjo/114657821935053517

Can we have a lill boost please? The fediverse is the only place we're on.

We're a replacement for googlemaps.

European, non-commercial, pro-local.

https://www.lokjo.com

Thanks for sharing 😊

#golocal #maps #EU

Lokjo - a European online map (@[email protected])

Moin moin Europe! And we're carefully back online again, with a few exceptions. https://www.lokjo.com First, a huge thanks to https://www.geoapify.com for understanding the situation and delivering tiles while we fix a replacement. There's 3 exceptions, for the moment: - A basic OSM map display. (modern version comes back later) - No satellite images. (if somebody knows a EU provider that would be great) - the feedback form is taken offline. (no time for that) That's all for now.

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Jun 7, 2025 at 7:24pmWeb
Show threadTim FinnertyJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Nice. Some commercial references seem a few years out of date though.
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 7, 2025

@TimFinnerty

Oh yeah that can happen. We use OSM for data. It's maintained by a huge community, but can have some lag.

If you're interested you can adjust it by leaving a note on the map or just opening an account and helping out. :)

Just go here: https://www.osm.org

OpenStreetMap

OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.

OpenStreetMap
Show threadJonathan LamotheJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Do you draw from OSM, or is this a ground-up implementation?
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 7, 2025

@me

We use https://www.jawg.io for map layout, and they use the data from OSM.

Jawg.io | Créez vos cartes personnalisées avec Jawg Maps

Show threadgoddawJun 7, 2025
@lokjo I use HereWeGo. How does Lokjo excel?
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 7, 2025

@goddaw

Herewego is part european, but it's also from corporations, who's profit goes to investors/stockmarket, which we don't support. (it supports things like lobbying, unfair labour, pollution etc)

Show threadKevin RussellJun 7, 2025

@lokjo

Welcome. There us no algorithm putting your posts into eyes.

Engagement on Mastodon is by hashtags. Make new hashtags, find well.used ones.

After typing a # Mastodon will the you the number of users for the hashtag.

For example if you type - #usp - Mastodon will say 1.9k under highlight meaning almost two thousand recent posts with rhe US politics hashtag "#uspoli"

#maps #google #techbro #tech #code #app #coders #map #mappers #directions

Show threadThePfromtheOJun 7, 2025
@kevinrns @lokjo
That's indeed very important!
Show threadDror BedrackJun 7, 2025
@lokjo lockjaw? isnt that tetanus?
Show threadtelefuzziJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Just learned the names of the small lakes around my home.
Show threadNorthants GreensJun 7, 2025
@lokjo we might look into this to help our green activists
Show threadh3rr3ttJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Interesting, in first opening the link, that it's showing churches in my area but not restaurants (Burien, WA, USA). Not a plus in my atheistic opinion. A better alternative to Google interests me tho.
Show threademeritrixJun 7, 2025

@h3rr3tt @lokjo

I am also a little daunted by the churches automatically visible --but I like that not everything is automatically visible--you can use the quicklinks feature to find restaurants if that is what you're looking for.

I'd suggest churches/religious sites should also be something that can be toggled on instead of always on.

I appreciate not having the map swamped with a zillion pins & logos, which have made googlemaps difficult to read (even aside from all the "corporate / for-profit" & c. issues of google)

Show threadWilfried KlaebeJun 7, 2025
@lokjo What's the big difference to osm.org?
Show threadWilfried KlaebeJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Also, I do like to use OsmAnd on my Android phone for my navigational needs, but the one thing that still makes me use Google Maps sometimes is its knowledge of current traffic conditions. Can you replace that? And if so, how?
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@wonka

OSM is for data inout, it's not made for browsing. Lokjo is just a modern interface whci can be used by non-tech people too.

Show threadFábio Pereira ✌🏼 🇵🇹Jun 7, 2025
@lokjo yeah, unfortunately "Lokjo is the first worldwide & non-profit map from European soil where you can find all local shops & places, regardless of their size or advertisement budget. We just list them all.", this isn't true.
Show threadShiroBlooJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Will there be an app?
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@ShiroBloo

At the moment no. Most of the settings are stored in the URL though, so you can just link in your browser.

Show threadConnectionWithWonderJun 7, 2025
@lokjo this is really very good!
Show threadPatrick Morris MillerJun 7, 2025
@lokjo Anyone who spells 'Gulf of Mexico' right deserves a boost.
Show threadSimon AshcroftJun 7, 2025

@lokjo

Well, just found my house, and the names in the locality look right.

I try to avoid Google Maps, but I wonder if this will be able to challenge the functionality of What3Words.

Show threadLukas HvGJun 7, 2025
@lokjo
What's the difference to #osm exactly?🤔
Show threadJohan SköldJun 7, 2025

@lokjo the one big piece of feedback I have is to prioritize search results that are closer to where I'm currently looking. If I'm looking at my house on the map, and type the name of my street in the search box, ideally my street should be the top hit. Not streets with the same name in other parts of the country or even other countries.

I like how clean the tiles look compared to OSM though. 👍

Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@rhoot

This is a realy difficult thing to acchieve, we've been working on it for a long time, though hope to have it fixed soon.

Show threadderptronJun 7, 2025
@lokjo I seem to have immediately exceeded my quota :p
Show threadSlash909ukJun 7, 2025

@lokjo good luck!

Also I have a whole screen saying you have exceeded your quota on jawg.io. oops.

Show threadJack Yan (甄爵恩)Jun 7, 2025
@Slash909uk @lokjo Glad it wasnʼt just me! I had wondered if it was only available to Europeans.
Show threadKirstyJun 8, 2025

@jackyan @Slash909uk @lokjo

Same - in Australia

Show threadLucJun 8, 2025
@Kirsty @jackyan @Slash909uk @lokjo same here.
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@Slash909uk

Thanks! Working on it, temporarely fixed now.

Show threadCool Grey MatterJun 7, 2025

@lokjo

For some reason, I see only a screen filled with "Quota exceeded..." messages. But that's only in the default view. Satellite view works fine.

Show threadAaronJun 8, 2025
@coolgreymatter @lokjo Gulf of Mexico! :)
Show threadLinux Is BestJun 7, 2025

@lokjo

Oh, really?

This me visiting your site for the first time.

I am being told there is a quota limit, when I have never heard of you or used your site. I do not even know what it would look like while functional.

Show threadRadgrydJun 8, 2025
@Linux @lokjo Same here. 🥺
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@Radgryd @Linux

We'Re an online map, and yeah sorry for that, it's temporarely fixed now. we're wokring on a solution.

Show threadLinux Is BestJun 8, 2025

@lokjo @Radgryd

So this implies, you are not actually the map provider, but relying on someone else's map services. - A shell company is not exactly what people are look for (sorry).

Show threadSnowJun 8, 2025
@Linux @lokjo @Radgryd Great another shell company that will probably shrivel up within a year or two
Show threadTurreJun 8, 2025

@Linux @lokjo
Once upon a time, there was a phenomena known as Slashdot effect, choking unsuspecting niche sites by concentrating the geeks of the world upon it. Once it was a lone Commodore 64 running a prototype web-server, meticulously serving one byte at a time...

It's been a while since I last saw anything slashdotted, but it seems Lokjo has been treated to a new version of the same: mastodonted. Although in this case Lokjo wasn't an unsuspecting nice site but self-advertising.

Show threadtaco, bird/cat Jun 7, 2025
@lokjo not sure where else to report this but it seems y'all hit a rate limit somewhere?
Show threadSchafstelze 🎗🖤Jun 7, 2025
@lokjo great map... I stick to OSM, thanks, but no thanks
Show threadNZChineseGenealogyJun 7, 2025
@lokjo appears to be a scam?
Show threadTimJun 7, 2025
@lokjo certainly interesting. How does your offering compare to @organicmaps ? What sets you apart?
Show threadComunidad bahá´í de MexicaliJun 8, 2025
@timsk @lokjo @organicmaps were on Organic, too.
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@Bahais_Mexicali @timsk @organicmaps

Organicmaps are focused on outdoor use and without the need for a connection.

We're more focused on supporting local shops.

In overall I gues it's just a difference in taste.

Show threadTimJun 8, 2025
@lokjo @Bahais_Mexicali @organicmaps ok, thanks for the response. And are you feeding data back into OSM, or building your own layer on top of it? (Sorry to be asking but your website is only showing me "over quota" error messages so I can't attempt to see for myself).
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@timsk @Bahais_Mexicali @organicmaps

You're welcome. :) It's a bit chaotic now here especially on a holiday, but the tile-problem is tmeporarely fixed now with osm tiles form geoapify.

I'm giving back to osm when I see something, but I'm not building a seperate layer on top. Lokjo is just a hub of apis build in a modern interface.

Show threadComunidad bahá´í de MexicaliJun 8, 2025
@lokjo @timsk @organicmaps Thank you for replying! :)
Show threadJos noemt het gewoon melkJun 7, 2025
@lokjo All map tiles say "quota exceeded" with a url that's not your url. This is my first visit, though.. 
Show threadLokjo - a European online mapJun 8, 2025

@goleztrol

Yes it's from our tiles service Jawg.io.

We've currently fixed it now.

Show threadShirley EugestJun 7, 2025
@lokjo
I like it. After a few searches, I got this.
Show threadSteven HeywoodJun 8, 2025
@lokjo
You might want to have satellite view as the default. The current default has an overlay of "quota exceeded" messages though the underlying data seems to be retrievable by search.
Show threadSiranaJun 8, 2025

@lokjo When I open the link I just get a ton of messages about exceeding some quota...?

No clue if the ad blocker is the problem or anything else though.

Show threaddiffie :3 (bindiff)Jun 8, 2025

@lokjo Quite a good replacement, isn't it?

(I see this on the _first_ load of the page. LOL)