Hot take: ISO standards do not meaningfully matter to me, because an extremely impoverished, unbanked person cannot freely access their contents from a smartphone or library computer.

Therefore, I go out of my way to avoid referring to them or relying on them in anyway.

@soatok ISO standards are behind a fuckin paywall?

jesus christ

@matildalove @soatok
ISO: "We created global standards for everyone to follow"
Everyone: "Can we see them?"
ISO: "No"

@aires @matildalove @soatok

They're industrial standards. There's an underlying assumption that you're not going to be able to make use of them without massive amounts of capital equipment, and a further assumption that if you're not able to make use of them, they're probably not very interesting or relevant to you.

Maybe those assumptions are flawed. But they're at least not surprising.

@publius @aires @matildalove @soatok
As a comsumer how do I view the standard so I can check a product complies?

@emilion @publius @aires @matildalove @soatok
Yeah. lol. I ain't trusting that. Also, several ISO standards are based on known faulty lookup tables that are still used because it would break consistancy to fix them. If you can't independently verify it complies to a standard and where it might deviate from expectations or other standards then it's a pathetic excuse for a standard.

And that certificate still doesn't say exactly what it's complying with.

@geoffl @publius @aires @matildalove @soatok If you have a problem with a standard's requirements, it is best to reach out to a specific working group (WG).

As for prices, shop around. I bought from evs.ee in the past.
https://openregulatory.com/articles/accessing-standards

@emilion @publius @aires @matildalove @soatok
How do I know if there's a problem with the standard if I can't read it?
@geoffl @emilion @publius @aires @matildalove @soatok trust the corporations of course /s
I'm an independent Engineer & tinkerer. It angers me so badly that we have to pay a fortune for standards. For example I've designed a towbar for my car and sold it to others but there's no way i can justify the cost of the standards to ensure it complies. Luckily here in NZ there's no requirement to prove compliance for towbars even though with Australia we have our own unique one.

@Niall @geoffl @publius @aires @matildalove @soatok I don't understand. If you cannot afford a copy of a standard how can you afford the required static/dynamic testing for towbars you sold?

https://www.legislation.gov.au/F2007L02226/latest/text

Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 62/02 – Mechanical Connections Between Vehicles) 2007 - Federal Register of Legislation

@emilion @geoffl @publius @aires @matildalove @soatok
Contrary to popular belief we never accepted their offer of Federation
#NZisAdifferentCountryToOz

Edit: their was your