@XaetaCore @0xabad1dea having applied for canonical despite hating those: market was bad, my employer was bankrupt. I had experience and the job listing fit my skills. I knew it sucked but I was desperate.
I got autorejected for my lack of academic background :)
Listen to your gut. Don't apply at canonical.
@XaetaCore @0xabad1dea what's wrong with netplan BTW? I don't mind it, but I also don't have a full grasp on how it works under the hood so I could be being swindled.
I am a snap hater though so I'm already aboard the roast canonical train.
@beaumains @0xabad1dea What i mind is that they are forcing you to use it, its their own software and it comes default on their systems, they also removed the /etc/interfaces file.
So all admins and users had to switch to a whole new stack out of nowhere because they couln'd get this tech to stick on other distros.
Flatpak imho is a way better alternative and using netplan instead of ifconfig/systemd-networkd/interfaces_file is just wierd.
Its forcing their own tech on its users because they don't want it to be a wasted investment.
And netplan has caused tons of issues on plenty of different production envs i have worked on for different companies too.
@XaetaCore @0xabad1dea those are all really good points. Its used by default on Debian cloudimg releases if I'm not mistaken, this saddens me.
Edit: netplan is indeed installed by default on Debian cloudimg releases
@dysfun @0xabad1dea let's come down to the choice of bread, because that's what we all have in common.
β Canonical probably
@0xabad1dea The job listings just sound so plausible and nice.
What's the harm if I just eat one of the cupcakes? Surely I won't be stuck there for eternity, tormented by imps and gnomes and agile sprites?
Damn it. Trapped by pretty frosting.
@0xabad1dea All those questions in the written part about school for a senior role.
I STUDIED COBOL IN SCHOOL.
How's that matter in a senior role with Ubuntu? Obsessed with how senior staff did 10+ years back. I barely remember or care what I did in another position 10 years ago, and I learned more there than I did in school.
@winterschon
The questions about ranking and performance in HIGH SCHOOL are also concerning. Is this some sort of "peaked in high school" thing for the CEO?
@Raccoon @jbowen @0xabad1dea @xinit @winterschon
I suspect that your 'doing well' would rely more on how cheerfully you would allow yourself to be infantilized by Shuttleworth, less on your 'qualifications' . . .
@jbowen Is he gonna check it anyway? Will all high schools be able to verify it still? Will I have to sign something that they can give to the school to show I want them to have that information?
I was an unemployable prat at highschool who flunked a lot of classes and would have screwed up your computers, you wouldn't want to hire me at that stage. Once I had some experience with computers from my first computing job I was then awesome. I've had 3 jobs since then, why don't we focus on those?
@chrisp @jbowen I very nearly didn't even *graduate* high school, largely due to a very traumatic home life. But I'd like to believe what I've done in the nearly four decades since then is quite a bit more relevant to anyone thinking of employing me in 2025.
As a side note, it is **startling** how much less of this you get when offering business to business consulting as someone who owns their own business... Even if it's a solo business, and you charge 3x what an employee would cost.
@0xabad1dea @xinit @winterschon
I have the feeling that after I say "I was homeschooled" I'd be sent packing.
Basically it's the kind of thing where if your life was non-stereotypical in any way, then fuck you.
@artemis I don't have a degree, so I feel that :D
@artemis you might make it through the gauntlet - I did, but this is what Shuttleworth said about it https://hachyderm.io/@sara/112117156883684126
10. THE CALL Mark begins our call by saying: "I've read your essay responses. You say you didn't go to high school. Generally I only want people who are in the top 5%. You obviously can't prove that applies to you. So tell me why I should believe you were the equivalent to the top 5% of your peers at 16."
@sara
That CEO interview, though. "Can you prove X. Convince me yo really did Y."
Insufferable.
This all makes the spontaneous TED Talk on "any subject at all that I'm an expert in" look a bit more reasonable.
@0xabad1dea @xinit @winterschon I would pass on the high school criteria and I also think this is incredibly wrong, what has happened since then is far more important.
Also if I'm applying somewhere and they give me a pseudoscience personality quiz I'm bailing on the process right there.
@celeduc Then maybe something more like "Peaked in high school and still too young to come to terms with it"
@xinit My bet is that he (and other billionaires) come from a supremacist mindset, so of course good candidates would have to perform well even in high school, if it comes in their genetics.
@xinit @0xabad1dea I can understand looking at something like a high school GPA as a very inexpensive filter when one is investing very little in an interview process, but it's a *ludicrous* measure to include in a process as lengthy as the one you describe.
I have to say that, apart from the weird and clearly unnecessary CEO interview, this sounds like identically dystopian hell to any time I've tried to apply unsolicited for a position in any enterprise sized business, though.
@0xabad1dea it took me ... upwards of 15 hours to answer everything. next step ? an IQ test πππ
I dropped out
@0xabad1dea first I think that's straight up illegal in France (possibly the whole EU), second I'm not even remotely entertaining the idea this is normal, third why the F would I want to work with people who think it is ??
I'm now going by the general mantra of "whatever happens during the interview is a good preview of the actual job" and oh BOY I did NOT like whatever happened in this one
@0xabad1dea what are they even testing FOR, this process is giving equals amounts of :
- we will only hire someone who's autistic + whose specific interest is the exact job description
- we hate people with the 'tism so fucking much we'll invent the Torment Nexus of hiring processes
@0xabad1dea "someone from the team I applied for told me that the role has been empty for more than 18 months, and offered a polite smile when asked why she thought that was the case."
We LOVE a good lack of self-awareness
@halva @0xabad1dea Because people keep using their shit Linux distro and treating it like the gold standard.
They should have been irrelevant and out of business a decade ago.
@nechesh @dalias @halva @0xabad1dea
Point of order. Their distro has always been excellent, because it's based on Debian, which is excellent. Ubuntu just made the installation and setup process easier, and that was enough to make it the reference Linux platform for a lot of important software.