Excellent interview with former prime minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern, in The Guardian, reflecting on #leadership, #empathy & lessons from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/may/31/jacinda-ardern-kind-leadership-public-rage-life-trump-america

‘Empathy is a kind of strength’: Jacinda Ardern on kind leadership, public rage and life in Trump’s America

Young, progressive and relatable, the former prime minister of New Zealand tried to do politics differently. But six years into power, she dramatically resigned. In an exclusive interview with the Guardian’s editor-in-chief, she explains why

The Guardian