I'm sick and tired of seeing articles like

'Introverted? Here's how to be more social'

FUCK OFF!!!

How about an article with the headline

'Extroverted? Here's how to shut the fuck up'

@Anomnomnomaly There's a book I've got which takes 200-plus pages to essentially make the same argument you just made in a couple of sentences in a toot πŸ˜†

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet%3A_The_Power_of_Introverts_in_a_World_That_Can't_Stop_Talking

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking - Wikipedia

@losttourist

Well, I always try to make things as simple as possible for the stupid people. πŸ€” πŸ˜†

@losttourist

Seems you're wasting too much time dissecting the problem, just cut to the chase!
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Magnificent book indeed.

I first saw Susan Cain on a Ted talk and she was marvelous. Reframed the entire discussion. Gave us permission to embrace being an introvert... and embrace telling extroverts to shut the fk up.

Life changing book. Sometimes we need to read the long version to really appreciate the single paragraph version.

@losttourist @Anomnomnomaly I need to get that book. A lifetime of being treated like there's something wrong with me.
#IntrovertsOfMastodon #introvertsunite
@Anomnomnomaly "Try to start conversations with people and ask them about their life." But then they might tell me about their life, which I don't give a shit about.
@Anomnomnomaly This is something, I feel, The Onion should do
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I watched a couple videos about introverts travelling solo, and their advice was to stay in a hostel in order to meet other people.
LOL how about no. I want my alone time.
@ShaunOttawa @Anomnomnomaly I'd rather see an article about how / where to find good places to stay when travelling alone (particularly as a single male) where you would be safe and not judged for travelling in this manner (it seems all hotels etc round here default to assuming you are travelling as a couple or in a family group, and its still seen as weird to visit restaurants and pubs (other than fast food places) solo...
@bownie @Anomnomnomaly I am so introverted that when I (rarely) go to the hairdresser, they rapidly give up on trying to make conversation.
@FelisCatus @Anomnomnomaly the hairdresser has to be the number 1 most stressful situation for the introvert. I will deliberately choose the one where there's little or no queue and no chat at any of the chairs
@bownie @FelisCatus @Anomnomnomaly My hairdresser appreciates it when I tell her I will go into stand-by mode while she is doing her job. She enjoys a break from talkative customers. Occasionally we just chat along and that’s also nice.
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For me it's being forced to attend a birthday gathering in a bar. I'm usually very punctual but in cases like that I make sure to not be there first.
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@FelisCatus @bownie @Anomnomnomaly getting similar with that. I understand is to get client attention as much as possible. Fortunately I found one nerby my place and he knows me already a bit so it might look akward to him but we just enjoy the silence.

@FelisCatus @bownie @Anomnomnomaly

+1. Hate hair cuts.

I'm quite fond of the old joke...
Q) How would you like your hair cut?
A) In silence

The local barbers always try to engage me in a conversation about football. The nicest thing I have to say about football is that it doesn't interest me.

@markn @FelisCatus @bownie

I've had my hair cut by women for the last 20yrs. A friend of the family and neighbour to my folks used to do it, I'd even make a 50 miles round trip as she used to come to my mums house to do hers, even 15yrs after they moved to another town.

When I moved here, I found a hairdressers that also did mens hair... all the others are 'Turkish' barbers and I've been to a few and never enjoyed the experience at all... Especially when the tried to put wax up my nose and in my ear without asking... fuck right off with that shit.

Like most introverts, once I've gotten to know a person who cuts my hair every 6 weeks and my beard every 3 weeks... We can get chatty, she plays football for the local team and just lost out winning the league this year by 1 point. She asks about the DIY stuff I'm doing.

That's ok now.

@Anomnomnomaly @markn @bownie should "DIY that I'm doing" be called DIM though?

@markn @bownie @Anomnomnomaly ah yeah. Football. Every time I meet a guy they ask me if I am into football, I say not really (to be polite, the truth being not at all), and the conversation falls flat.

Sometimes I even feel like I am the rude person for not being interested in football.

@FelisCatus @bownie @Anomnomnomaly this is the thing. The assumption that everyone supports a football team.

Who's your team? Sometimes I just lie and say Sheffield Wednesday, it's easier.

Although my barber shop conversation repository around Sheffield Wednesday is limited to...

a) my grandma supported Sheffield Wednesday & I grew up there
b) they had a goal keeper called Bob Boulder (whose name I still find pleasing)

@markn @bownie @Anomnomnomaly Bob Boulder is a lovely name. I'd support any team whose goalie is named Ben Belay, Stan Stoner or Greg Granite.
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I'm gonna use tis one on my Curricilum. Love It !
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@Anomnomnomaly At the start of COVID my daughter said to me "Daddy, you've been self-isolating all your life". I have to admit she was right and that I actually enjoyed Lockdown.

@tristrambrelstaff @Anomnomnomaly

I admit that the isolation of lockdown was not a hardship for me. I kind of felt like I'd gone through the looking glass into a world where my needs were the norm and it was gregarious people's needs that were the supposed anomaly. (To be clear, neither introversion nor extroversion is an anomaly, but the western world tends to be more accommodating of and geared toward the latter).

@jaimeJ @tristrambrelstaff @Anomnomnomaly Well said, especially the latter.

Sometimes it is easy to express neurodivergence as superior to NT, but really, both are equally valid and are part of the delightful conglomerate that makes up society.

@tristrambrelstaff

I never noticed that much of a difference either... except maybe in increase in noise as neighbours also stayed home more... But one of them moved out in June and as it was a housing assoc property... needed a lot of work to make it liveable again. So didn't get new neighbours for 3-4 months which was bliss... the old boy on the other side was quiet as a mouse and in bed by 9pm.

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That article would be solely shared among introverts as a form of cathartic release, but sure.

@Anomnomnomaly reminds me of this bit by Joe Wells about his non-autistic brother. https://youtu.be/Op6eKSu3SLk&t=30s
Having a non-autistic brother (extended version)

YouTube

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Let's sell workshops.

"Reading and comprehending"

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So much this.

"Why are you so sad? Come join in, we are all doing a role playing game. It's so fun"
"I'm not sad, I just have nothing to say"

Also, I'd rather get a hernia than role play

@Anomnomnomaly how about instead an article that says β€œhow to let other people be who they are and respect everyone”?

On the introvert/extrovert scale my husband is a 2 and I’m a 12 (off the scale). I _never_ try to change him, respect him and his space, and he doesn’t try to change me. I go do my extrovert stuff elsewhere and he’s okay.

Maybe something less aggressive than being told to shut the fuck up?

Hoping you find less obnoxious extroverts. We do exist.

@Anomnomnomaly the only good thing about the COVID-19 pandemic was to show how biased the world was towards extroverts
@Anomnomnomaly reminds me of positivity campaigns by The Joy team. Basically billboards telling people to smile and celebrate. But if you are going through grief or hardship, the thought is too: fuck off, shut up, mind your own business.

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I hate how introvertness is always depicted as antisocial. Antisocial behavior and introvertness are two entirely different things

@Anomnomnomaly Now Now ! This is a public enitiy and you are the one who must learn when to pass posts by or exclude yourself from them ... everyone has a right to be here within reason πŸ€”πŸ˜
@Anomnomnomaly I'm currently learning "Boundaries. Here's how to enforce them." No one who would intentionally cross them is ever going to make the effort to stop, and I don't need articles telling me how to adjust my boundaries to accommodate them.
@johann @Anomnomnomaly hahahahahha!!! I love that.
@Anomnomnomaly yes! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚