AmberMay 29
windows users with their 50 ahk scripts, powertoys, third party package manager, batch and powershell scripts holding up their entire operating system: "linux is too complicated"
Show threadMelody HeadroomMay 29
@puppygirlhornypost2 ironically this is the only thing i miss about windows. i love installing a bunch of shit to make my computer work like i wnat

i know you do that on linux too, but the vibe isn’t the same.
Show thread🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️   θΔ ⋐ & ∞May 29
@silly @puppygirlhornypost2 wait yeah i get it because i miss my jailbroken iphone as an android user
Show threadsodigay  foreverMay 29
@tauon @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 same. I miss so bad having an actual package manager and an abundance of tweaks that actually work well. iOS jailbreaking spoiled me and I hate the Android equivalents. ​​
Show threadAmberMay 29
@sodiboo @tauon @silly good news, the ios jailbreak scene has been shit ever since ios 10. ios 9 with pangu was the last good thing and it became a money grab with plagiarism. i dont jailbreak my iphones anymore. coolstar is a prick, i miss saurik. so ios jailbreaking isnt as good as it was
Show threadsodigay  foreverMay 29

@puppygirlhornypost2 @tauon @silly big disagree. yalu102 was my first jailbreak, and I was with that scene for a while. up until like, iOS 14 or 15.

I never got the thing with CoolStar being a prick. in hindsight, I think that was always rooted in transphobia? like, her jailbreak tools worked fine and they were nice to use. I like Sileo better than Cydia. when I used unc0ver i anyways installed Zebra, because it was sorta similar to Sileo.

it became a money grab with plagiarismI was never aware of any widespread plagiarism. it never felt like a money grab to me. the free tweaks are abundant and the paid ones I used were always fairly priced and i think it's money well spent.

I loved the jailbreak scene i got to experience. I was young, so maybe I didn't comprehend the horrors, but it felt comfortable.

and then, coming to Android, everything is so.... fragmented. it's not as fun. everything feels unstable because they literally werent made for the exact operating system I have. customization stuff barely works. play integrity is a bitch (compared to iOS, where libhooker & shadow are magic swords that slice through any detection). discovery of stuff is hard because there's no good central repo. where the fuck is my package manager I need my package manager. and the system itself is so hostile to rooting (see: play integrity). I can't use mobile touch payments. I can't use RCS. even apple has RCS now. at least on iOS, nothing about the core system degrades when I gain root access.

Show threadKevin Karhan May 29

@sodiboo @tauon @puppygirlhornypost2 @silly I recommend going full #degoogled #Android.

Show thread🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️   θΔ ⋐ & ∞May 29
@kkarhan @sodiboo @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 wrong reply
Show threadKevin Karhan May 29

@tauon @sodiboo @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 ?

I wounder how people could ever accept the "#BenevolentDictatorship" of #Apple.

Show thread🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️   θΔ ⋐ & ∞May 29
@kkarhan @sodiboo @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 jailbreaking and rooting are essentially the same thing
Show threadKevin Karhan May 29

@tauon @sodiboo @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 yes and no.

There never were cool tools like the #DEBUG_CHAR module for #Qualcomm #Baseband|s on #iOS.

Show thread🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️   θΔ ⋐ & ∞May 29
@kkarhan @sodiboo @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 i don't understand how this is related to rooting
also hello? the checkm8 exploit? any other iphone bootrom exploit? pongoOS? these are cool tools
Show threadKevin Karhan May 29

@tauon @sodiboo @silly @puppygirlhornypost2 I don't deny them to be cool.

  • Some people may say that the #Openness of #Android is why there isn't as much pressure to innovate there than on #iOS!
Show threadsodigay  foreverMay 29
@kkarhan @tauon @silly @puppygirlhornypost2

the thing about Android's openness is that... it feels like i was told a lie.

Yes, I can in theory install any OS on my phone. That's neat. But what does that actually give me? Nothing.

Because the kernel drivers are out of the main tree. Because the hardware isn't really standardized. So, every distro has to maintain releases for every device.

And they don't have enough maintainers to do that.

So, because I don't have a Google or Samsung or Xiaomi phone, I'm left with like, maybe half a dozen choices? if I'm lucky? most of them aren't even good. And, because I went with one that had customizability, I'm left with an unstable buggy mess that crashes too often, and my device is no longer supported so I'm just left to rot. I get that maintaining devices is a huge burden, and the One Person just doesn't have the time anymore. Nothing against them. But as a user, this fucking sucks.

What good is freedom and openness, if I'm punished for exercising it? Google apps especially, but even on a fundamental level as security updates, I'm just, what, left to die? "cold flash necessary".

At least on iOS the freedom is real. You have to wait for it, yes. Apple doesn't make it easy. But when your version has a jailbreak, it'll feel good to use.

My next stop is probably GrapheneOS, and it's not even because of privacy, or being degoogled. I just want something that works, and is reasonably close to AOSP. GrapheneOS doesn't pretend to have the capacity to support many devices: they do Pixel phones and *that's it*. They even promise 7 years of support for the latest two generations. That sounds great, given my trauma from other Android distros.

I do care about privacy, but it comes second to having something that fucking works. It's my phone, and I'm sick and tired of all the Android modding bullshit that was never an issue on iOS.
Show threadKevin Karhan May 30

@sodiboo @tauon @puppygirlhornypost2 @silly I don't think it's much of a "#freedom" on #iOS but rather that the few devices and OS versions in circulation, alongside everyone from #jailbreaker to #malware (espechally #govware #developers) want to crack it open result in way more personnel and money behind it.

  • OFC the fact that the #Android experience is worse from that POV is the lack of #regulation re: #repairability and #openness that would make shit work. Most cheap #phones are done with even cheaper #SoC's by manufacturers who can't be assed (or frankly don't give a shit at all!) when it comes to #Linux #mainline support. (I mean, you've seen the video where @SexyCyborg demanded a vendor to give her the sourcecode as per #GPLv2 for her device?)

Granted @GrapheneOS does limit their support to devices that can comply with their #security standards.

  • The issues are mostly caused by hostile app developers that specifically decided to knee-jerk their users / customers for no good reason.

I do wish for both vendors like #Fairphone to up their game and regulators like @EUCommission to actually push for more #transparency, #openness and #LongTermSupport of #Smartphones, because #ManufacturedEwaste like #SOYES, #WiKo, #Unihertz and others that ship #outdated #AndroidDevices and never even a single update are a major problem!

  • I don't blame projects like @LineageOS that they can't cover every device & SoC even tho they propably have the widest compatibility, I just think that there needs to be pressure that manufacturers don't just vomit stuff on the market and let customers frustratingly figure out the rest.

I do have to give #Apple credit where it is due, and that is that #iOS does have consistency and accessibility nailed down very well. Something that they obviously are able being the "#BenevolentDictator" of a #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider - platform.

  • Obviously since they are the #vendor for #hardware and the sole ["legitimate" / official] #distributor for any #Apps they do OFC cross-finance their relatively long #support with their 15-30% cut from #App #sales & #InAppPurchase|s they charge, which is why #AndroidPhones suffer the "#3DO syndrome": Needing to charge more since they only get to make money once with hardware sales and not after that, so there's no incentive for them to give a shit beyond "brand value" to care. #Google, #Samsing, #Fairphone and very few others do, but most don't as they close the books on the product once launched and sold out (angrily stares at Unihertz)...

Maybe one day the folks at @frameworkcomputer acquire Fairphone and decide to bring the same modularity to #Smartphones and get something done that makes it easy to maintain long-term and that even #GrapheneOS are willing to support.

Show threadKevin Karhan 

@sodiboo @tauon @puppygirlhornypost2 @silly

Worse is even the #Tablet market: #Android #Tablets may be plentyful if you just go sheer listings, but in terms of #MarketShare they are negigible in "the global north" and thus not interesting for #developers to even bother adapting or testing for unless they themselves are #GAFAMs.

  • It's really fucking sad when @thunderbird is one of the few #Apps that I know that properly use Android Tablets' screen estate at all. Allegedly #Microsoft's own Apps do so as well but I myself have no #AndroidTablet and can't bring myself over the gag reflex trying to sideload #OneNote or any other App and having to deal with yet another shitty account...

Whereas on #iPadOS you get AA+ and #IndieGames worth their money by a long shot.

  • Don't even get #developers like @fuchsiii started on how piss-poor premium Apps on #Android sell and how that Tablet segment is essentially dead outside of markets where people can buy a house and a years' worth of necessities for the price of a single #iPad...

And that's why there are only #PayToLoose / #P2L aka. "#PayToWin" / #P2W games for #Android as #piracy is rampant and statistically noone is willing to pay for a #OneTimePurchase #Game on that platform.

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