I’m officially done with takes on AI beginning “Ethical concerns aside…”.

No! Stop right there.

Ethical concerns front and center. First thing. Let’s get this out of the way and then see if thre is anything left worth talking about.

Ethics is the formalisation of how we are treating one another as human beings and how we relate to the world around us.

It is *impossible* to put ethics aside.

What you mean is “I don’t want to apologise for my greed and selfishness.”

Say that first.

A small one of the myriad reasons I care is personal: every time you use spicy autocomplete to do any coding, it has been trained on source code that I have made available under specific licenses, and your use of my code does not happen under the terms of these licenses. So you’re stealing from me and my friends and that’s not a great start to the conversation of validating your greed ✌️

@janl

You're not wrong, but the ethical concerns are their own quagmire and it's helpful to be able to conversationally skip over them to get to the part where "AI" is also basically a party trick that doesn't actually do anything useful in the real world.

I mean, the implication of the phrase is that the other person is a sociopath, and that seems plausible to me at least some of the time.

@suetanvil but see, you don't need to skip them: ethics is what should guide us in using these tools. if they can't be ethically used, that should be enough.

@janl