Aral Balkan

“50,000 dead Palestinians isn’t enough to call it genocide.”

How fucking morally vacuous do you have to be for such a thought to even enter that privileged brain of yours?

Forget the consensus of every genocide scholar out there that this is genocide. Forget the live-streamed suffering. How devoid of humanity are you for your argument to be “that’s just not enough dead people for me.”

#israel #genocide #Palestine #Gaza #Western #complicity #privilege

May 27 at 10:22amWeb
Show threadBilal Barakat 🍉May 27

@aral

Srebrenica was 8,000.

Show threadPete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫May 27

@bifouba @aral

Exactly. It's not about how many, it's about who was killed and with what intent and rhetoric.

If there was any safe number of an ethnic minority countries were allowed to murder before it was officially a genocide triggering sanctions under international law, you can be sure some countries would be killing that many minus 1 every year.

The problem is Israel has realised there may be no number of Palestinians they can kill that will cause any meaningful pushback by the West.

Show threadBilal Barakat 🍉May 27

@petealexharris @aral

I've read reports that European diplomats were literally asking Netanyahu to try and keep the daily death count below 100.

Show threadAral BalkanMay 27
@bifouba @petealexharris Got any links? It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
Show threadBilal Barakat 🍉May 27

@aral @petealexharris

I've had a quick look, but I'm afraid I can't find the source now. I read so much these days, incl. things like article screenshots on social media that a keyword search on my computer won't show, and it could have been in German rather than English...

The bottom line is: don't quote me on it. Although as you say, it's nothing if not believable.

Show threadAral BalkanMay 27
@bifouba @petealexharris Thanks for looking 💕
Show thread☑️✅ cybercow ✅☑️May 27
@aral The Thing is, that they are nether (North)Americans nor Europeans so it just doesn't matther how many they are.
(It does but not for them it seams)
Show threadThomas TBMay 27
@aral Saying “50,000 dead isn’t enough to call it genocide” betrays a grave misunderstanding. Genocide isn’t measured in numbers, but in intent: to destroy a people in whole or in part. That includes not just killing, but bombing hospitals, starving civilians, making life unlivable, erasing the possibility of existence. Anyone honestly looking at the pattern should know what this is.
Show threadViolet MadderMay 27

@Flatus @aral

It's a tried and true Hasbara talking point, right out of the playbook. They trot it out every time, no matter how despicable it really makes them sound.

Always leaves me wondering if they plan to keep a token few alive, in zoos.

Show threadunidentified anomalous phenomenonMay 27
@aral Spot on
Show threadCairo Braga [gts]May 27
@aral someone actually said that out loud?
Show threadGhostOnTheHalfShellMay 27

@aral

Genocide is not defined in terms of numbers, but intent, successful intent.

50,000 represents the recorded verified deaths, but the system of record keeping has been destroyed.

Don’t forget Lance Polish an article where the estimates are closer to 200,000 and that was six months ago I think.

We will find out the total numbers of years and from now, because the population simply isn’t be there.

Quite easily 10% of the Gazan population is dead.

Show threadThe Great Llama May 27
@aral
It's really handy for them to have a set of goalposts because they can always move them.
Show threada fish named dog 🎗️✡️♾️May 27
@aral also genocide isn't dependent on # of people killed? it's defined by intent. if I systematically set out to exterminate all nauruans, that's a genocide. it doesn't matter that there are only like a thousand of them. the best you can say is that an unusually high death toll is probably correlated with genocide, but i'm pretty sure that by that logic, so is being german.
Show threada fish named dog 🎗️✡️♾️May 27
@aral Update: Using Wikipedia's list of genocides as a reasonable list, or at least one that reflects a random sampling of genocides:
1 has been committed by Israel
2 by the RSF & allies
1 by Myanmar
1 by China
3 by Russia/USSR
1 by Ethiopia
2 by ISIS
3 by Rwanda and allies
1 by Bosnian serbs
1 by Somalia
1 by Iraq
1 by Zimbabwe
1 by Lebanese Christians
1 by the Khmer Rouge
1 by Indonesia
1 by Idi Amin
1 by Burundi
1 by Pakistan
1 by Zanzibar
1 by Guatemala
1 by Sinhalas
1 by Croatia
more coming
Show threada fish named dog 🎗️✡️♾️May 27
@aral 5 by Germany
1 by Serbians
1 more by China, total 2
1 by Haudenashonee
1 by Spain
1 by Pope Innocent III
3 more by Russia/USSR, total 6
1 by Dominican Republic
1 by Italy
1 by William King Hale
5 by Turkey/Ottoman Empire
1 by Afghanistan
1 by Argentina
1 by Colombia
1 by Haiti
2 by the US
2 by Australia
1 by Maori
1 by Uruguay
caveat in next post
Show threada fish named dog 🎗️✡️♾️May 27
@aral Caveat: I don't agree with all of these characterized as genocides (Osage murders, for instance, were pretty clearly motivated by money) and many that I'd characterize as such were left out (Khmielnicki, Russian Empire pogroms/policies, Russian Civil War pogroms, Norway/Swedish actions as regards Sami, Tibet, Stolen Generations, boarding schools in Canada/US, Congo Free State, Japan in WW2, Roman actions against Jews, etc., etc.). But this was a lot easier than doing that kind of analysis.
Show threadFouMay 30
@aral any "person" that thinks and talks like that is not a human, is a big Malakas