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Dormouse@Em0nM4stodon you can always only buy what you're gonna use.
You know, it's a currency, don't invest in money. It's a stupid idea.
It's basically like saying that you can't accept Euro because not everyone has money to invest into foreign currencies. You only need to transact the amount you would pay anyway. (You can put some small discount to compensate for fees. I've seen people doing exactly that.)
@Em0nM4stodon credit card payment *is* a digital currency.
And I have no knowledge on handling cash.
richh@richh @Em0nM4stodon I am only going to comment with a joke. I don't feel evil today and don't wanna lose time on arguing over which we are clearly of opposite opinion.
"American scientists figured out how a fascist regime comes to existence."
And I'm going to attach an opinion which you probably don't agree with and is the reason why I wouldn't argue:
We need to reduce the influence of the government and corporations, not enforce it.
🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳I can find a good deal on Euros by comparing exchange rates fom multiple scources, checking commission rates & choosing from dosens of financial institutions that deal in traditional currency exchange. Or if I'm feeling lazy I can use my bank card to make payment directly in Euros and let my bank handle the currency exchange for a premium fee.
I also trust the ECB, that my Euros will retain roughly the same purchasing power by the time I come to spend them. 1/2
Alternatively I could go to a website I never heard of, buy a currency I've never heard of and be assured of it's value by a company I've never heard of saying "trust me bro". Because the level of knowledge the average person has about crypto means that's about as accessible as it gets.
2/2
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David HopewardI think Square is also a payment company (separate from Stripe?)
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I wasn’t trying to promote, just offer more info.
Obviously more choices in this space would be better.
Acin ☆@hopeward do you know if Square currently requires an EIN to register?
@shadowfals I didn’t know but I just saw this-
Do I need a Tax ID or EIN to use Square for business?
The title of this thread was updated from its original title: “New to square , need assistance”. I recently decided to go with square instead of just accepting cash and checks. My business is services rendered not a storefront or a company with an inventory. I have yet to register my business yet ...
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Snowuniverse@Em0nM4stodon I believe the EU is trying to solve this by adding a third option https://wero-wallet.eu
I do believe they focus on sending and receiving money first, and paying online. In the future maybe payments in physical stores as well.
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MatteoIn general it's better than PayPal in terms of commissions for merchants and customer service but I don't know regarding privacy (I just had a look at their privacy policy and there are a couple of parts so generic that they could do anything)
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Joachim Ziebs@Em0nM4stodon Over here banks have started to create a system that is supposed to rival PayPal eventually.
Not betting on it ever getting somewhere.
Right now, you can send money from one phone to another phone and that's it. No one I know has ever used it: Wero it is called.
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🐘 (er/ihm)@Em0nM4stodon If there were similar products, people would use it. Not all of them, but at least we would know. 🫥😢
You could have a look on montonio, they have Bank payments via api, but only a couple of banks support it 🫥
Or another european provider like Mollie who offers all kinds of methods like Stripe
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From my personal experience, PayPal ABSOLUTELY sucks. If something goes wrong with your account, you don't even have support. They can fuck off and get bankrupt. On the other hand, Stripe doesn't suck as bad, although they are not ideal.
To be honest, i don't even know if there can be a decent way to manage payments, even if a new alternative gets created.
Day Use X Mockin' UhMonero. Sorry, I had to.
@Em0nM4stodon It doesn't look like there are many options in this space.
https://alternativeto.net/software/stripe/?license=opensource
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Marcus Müller- stripe (not the worst,as it seems to work for freelancers)
- woocommerce (actually is stripe payment)
- mollie (sounds like drugs, seems to be an actual serious competitor; rates very comparable to stripe)
- adyen (think that aims at larger shops, incl things like risk management etc, which sounds *worse* in terms of privacy,might be opt.)
Delaney 🇨🇦🇺🇦@Em0nM4stodon Currently using Wise, though I'm not sure how they stack up on the privacy side.
EDIT: they work in Canada as well
❣️a standard deviantslow pay when you can? i can still “send checks” through my credit union. they try an e-method first, then print and mail a paper check at no extra cost to me.
zelle, theoretically could work better at this, so far i’ve only had success with person-to-person. and that it has been wonderful for.
i’m hoping credit unions will collaborate on something. pleasepleaseplease
@melioristicmarie Unfortunately Zelle is only for the US it seems.
An online payment solution built from a collaboration of credit unions would be truly delightful.
Mx. Eddie RSquare (https://squareup.com) offers very similar services to Stripe, including collecting tap-to-pay with your phone. They also have some backoffice stuff like inventory management, but that's not something I need so I don't know how it compares.
Account setup was all pretty painless.
Right.
There's Moneris (https://www.moneris.com/en/about-moneris/contact-us), but they might be Canada-only, and I've only worked with them for mid-sized businesses so I don't know what they might offer for individuals.
Nothing in my experience stood out as a red flag. Way way back they were right bastards to get software certified with, but as far a KYC and data protection they are okay.
I've worked with them several times, most recently in the last 5 years. They've gotten better about web integrations.
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