I’m officially done with takes on AI beginning “Ethical concerns aside…”.
No! Stop right there.
Ethical concerns front and center. First thing. Let’s get this out of the way and then see if thre is anything left worth talking about.
Ethics is the formalisation of how we are treating one another as human beings and how we relate to the world around us.
It is *impossible* to put ethics aside.
What you mean is “I don’t want to apologise for my greed and selfishness.”
Say that first.
@janl Yes, I'm probably messing the pitch by unnecessarily widening the points. In normal speech we use Moral and Ethical interchangeably. We implicitly judge corporations by our own personal moral code. On that basis we can criticise corporates for deliberately refusing to address moral concerns. They should not be allowed to get away with this. But from their POV, they are still following their own system of Business Ethics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_ethics
@janl The corporate is explicitly saying "the end justifies the means" because in their view it will lead to a greater good. The problem is that it's a greater good for them and not necessarily for us.
As individuals and politicians we should not allow corporates to get away with this.
@jbond ah yes, business ethics. the thing that allowed ford to make the exploding pinto, that let coca cola to use death squads to kill union leaders in colombia, that had nestlé killing babies to sell formula in developing nations, union carbide in bhopal, citi in haiti, pacific island company in nauru, and so forth. thanks for that contribution to the discussion. it is important to be reminded that the profit motive is the making of monsters. great chat. let's move on.
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