RocketmanMay 22

Insisting that everyone should have a clear, recognizable and unchangeable gender only makes sense if you want to treat people of different genders differently.

Which you clearly shouldn't.

Show threadfedops 💙💛

@slothrop the usual counter argument is that males would change their gender to female and then compete in their sports events, winning everything.

Yup, sure sounds like complete BS. Just look at the Venn diagram of transphobes and fascists.

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Show threadRocketmanMay 22

@fedops The other major counterargument is that men(tm) would disguise themselves as women(tm) in order to sneak into female-only spaces, and assault and rape women.

Which they already do, all the time, usually without being caught, let alone punished.

Show threadTHRILLHOMay 22

@slothrop @fedops yeah, right? The reason this happens is a lack of security, not because some bloke found the cheat code of putting on a dress and bamboozling everyone.

Lockable single person loos and dressing rooms, don't tuck public toilets down a blind alley, bloody cameras and people around. That's how you stop opportunistic sexual assault.

Show threadChronic-migraine Ken ​​May 22

@slothrop @fedops I hear this a lot and it sounds like such a weak excuse for hate because when you throw transition into the mix honestly it sounds like lots of extra steps to me. Its life changing. There are actual cis men who SA people without dressing femme or going for gender affirming treatments/care all the time.

I wish they would leave trans women alone already. It shows me how little they understand about what it means to transition. Such hate has also lead to butch cis women being accosted when they go to the toilet as well. 

Show threaddragonfrogMay 22

@slothrop @fedops not to mention - if we assume that creepy cis men are going to go into women's washrooms, which condition makes it easier for them to do so?

- trans women can use women's washrooms, creepy cis men must invest in women's clothing to sneak in

- trans men must use women's washrooms, creepy cis men can walk in without even shaving their moustache or changing their clothes, at all and if challenged just claim to be trans men forced by law to use the women's bathroom

Show threadSchafstelze 🎗🖤May 22
@dragonfrog @slothrop @fedops trans or otherwise women might have a moustache and wear clothes from the 'men's fashion' department as well. Since there's no way to tell another person what gender it is meant to be, the only solution for the "bathroom issue" are unisex bathrooms. Works perfectly in trains and in private households, why not everywhere?
Show threadSchafstelze 🎗🖤May 22
@dragonfrog @slothrop @fedops So, imo the only situation where i have a legit interest to know the gender of a person is if i want to have sex with that person. Every other situation: None of my fcking business.
Show threadsu_liamMay 22
@Dingsextrem @dragonfrog @slothrop @fedops And then, only if the interest is returned.
Show threadSchafstelze 🎗🖤May 22
@su_liam @dragonfrog @slothrop @fedops needless to say, i assumed
Show threadsu_liamMay 24
@Dingsextrem @dragonfrog @slothrop @fedops One would hope, but the manosphere exists…
Show threadHugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷May 23
@slothrop ie, not disguised as women. @fedops
Show threadIrinaMay 23
@slothrop @fedops And they don't need to disguise themselves to do that. They just barge in as they are.
Show threadNiniMay 22
@fedops @slothrop Every accusation a confession, the whole deal is gender essentialist nonsense biased towards placing males on a pedestal.
Show threadsu_liamMay 22
@fedops @slothrop The casual certainty that men are better at… everything.