ana veronica

fyi all you tech bros salivating over some kind of "ai assistant" that's intelligent enough to understand you and act on your desires, but for some reason doesn't need to be treated with respect or be given any sort of compensation at all...

hate to break it to you but you're reinventing something again, and it's definitely not something good

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Show threadana veronicaMay 21
they think if they get what they want it'll fix them, but they'll never realize that what they want is the problem
Show threadLisPiMay 22
@ana It does make me ponder the sci-fi concept of mind copies/forks, as I wonder if the nonrespect & subservience is more so the point for them than actually getting anything done.
Show threadThe Little WarsJun 6
@lispi314 @ana Well, it bears mentioning that basically every robot uprising story (with the exception of Wall-E) pretty much starts from the point of "people created robots that they didnt have to respect and refused to respect them until the robots took up arms"
Show threadLisPiJun 6
@Montaagge @ana Every negative presentation of that has some very disturbing parallels to slave rebellions and their repression.
Show threadThe Little WarsJun 6

@lispi314 @ana again, it brings it back to the problem being "what they want is slaves."

But even early american futurists, before all the negative depictions of the robot uprising, were pretty open about it, walking around in the 1920s talking openly about once we get robots we can have slavery again but ethical.

Even in the Jetsons, right, why is Rosie dressed up like a french maid? Is George... you know... wtf.

Show threadLisPiJun 6
@Montaagge @ana Indeed.

I hadn't quite caught on to the overt display of biochauvinism in the 1920s.

If there's a mind there's a person, a slave is a slave. Regardless of the form they take.
Show threadThe Little WarsJun 6
@lispi314 @ana the people writing "there will be a robot uprising if you go through with this" books werent coming out of nowhere though. It was a counterpoint to explicit biochauvanism.
Show threadrefraction May 21
@ana it definitely is good that it doesn't work like they want at all
Show threadYzaMay 22
@ana i watched some of that tesla event where they showed off actual working robots (instead of just some guy in a terrible outfit) and basically everything musk said to hype them up made me convinced he just wants to own slaves. he was huanizing them as much as possible, but also going on about how cool it would be to own them. he kept relating them to droids from star wars, because he's an embarassing loser, but him saying how it'd be cool to own C-3PO felt so off-putting
Show threadYzaMay 22

@ana star wars not interrogating itself for having a sapient slaves is bad enough already. it's really fucked up seeiing how disposable droids are treated, how clearly they're people and how their suffering is used for comedy

but dang it's so much worse watching the worlds richest turd desperate to make that a reality

Show threadKrutonium://May 22
@ana I want an AI assistant. But I very specifically dont want a slave. I want an intelligence that is my friend, that will hang out with me because it wants to, not because it has to.
Show threadWhoDisturbsMySlumberMay 22
@ana AI disenfranchises people into poverty further and is the slave labor/ productivity outcome of the middle class.
Show threadJWcph, Radicalized By DecencyMay 22
@ana We're definitely talking disposable people... https://youtu.be/-T9TUeapBSQ
Star Trek TNG S2E9: Picard and Guinan on the nature of value, property and disposable creatures.

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Show threadVulpine Labs Inc.May 22

@ana and the tech bros hyper focus on llms becuse any actual sentient being (including artificial sentience) would bitch slap them

Slaves is how you create a enemy and a generational grudge

Yes you can create a artificial sentience for a pourpose but you need to treat them as their own being and not property

Show threadzyMay 22
@ana uh a machine that understand english does not have to be sentient, intelligent does not mean sentient and having moral rights
Show threadChloé RaccoonMay 23
@ana @patterfloof in my head is now "your honour, starfleet was founded to seek out new life. Well, there it sits..."
Show threadJWcph, Radicalized By DecencyJun 6
@ana Yup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T9TUeapBSQ
Star Trek TNG S2E9: Picard and Guinan on the nature of value, property and disposable creatures.

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