Trump seems to think that turning an existing production 747-800 into an AF1 plane is simply a matter of changing the seating layout and the paint scheme.

The AF1 747s are built with vastly different communications and avionics so they can serve as secure flying command posts during emergencies. They can be refueled in mid-air (a tanker plane follows it around when the president is on board, just in case).

They're also used in pairs, with the other plane on standby at a nearby airport.

"Modifying" a 747 to make it part of the Air Force One fleet is likely harder than building it from scratch. The chances that this could be done during the Trump presidency (assuming it ends after a 2028 election) seem very slim, at least without compromising the requirements.

So in other words, this whole scheme

- is likely illegal, and certainly unseemly, given the plane is a gift from a foreign government.

- would be extremely expensive for the taxpayers

- probably won't actually accomplish what Trump wants.

Another issue is that if the plan is to then "re-donate" the AF1-modified plane to the Trump library, it would have to be "de-miled", with all the special (and mostly classified) features removed so it could be flown by uncleared, non-military pilots. That would also be enormously time consuming and expensive, not to mention phenomenally wasteful.
@mattblaze You say this as if wasteful spending is something they care about when they're in power.
@mattblaze he's just going to take it, and then take it home.

@quinn

trump can't even afford to maintain his 757. It disappeared from campaign photos after the wingtip got clipped at a campaign stop and would have needed millions in repairs.

The Qatari's are also shedding storage and maintenance costs for plane they haven't used in 5 years, nor have been able to sell.

@mattblaze

@quinn

trump also wouldn't be able to use it much. Only one runway in West Palm Beach airport is long enough for a 747-8, and the airport in NJ that he uses for golf is too short.

Pics of trump at the NJ airport show Air Force "2" - the 757 that the vice-president normally uses in NJ.

(and for those who forgot AF-1 is any US airforce plane the President is flying on - so if the president were flying a Cesna-172 - its call sign would be AF-1 while the president was on board)

@mattblaze

@maya_b @quinn They use the "AF2" 757s (I think there are 4 in the fleet) fairly often - when they're flying to smaller airports, and also when one of the 747s is out of service.

They normally use those for VP flights (AF2) and other senior executives/VIPs (I believe they sent one of them to pick up Zelensky last year).

@mattblaze

iirc when Biden did his surprise visit in Kiev, they flew in one of the 757s with a regular military call sign (not AF-1) in and out of Poland, from where he travelled overland by train for the visit.

The point about the size though, other than to service his vanity, what could trump do with the "gift" later on? He can't use it for golf.

@quinn

@mattblaze @maya_b i guess that means he'll eventually have to sell it off and put that money towards his library. yeah, probably the library.

@quinn @mattblaze

The Qatari's have had it on the market for 5 years now - not much market for a blinged out used 747-8i. They've already given one the 3 747s they had away.

@maya_b @mattblaze so they basically gave trump their sad, diseased purebred cat

@quinn

and all its sit around and do nothing costs. good write-down for the Qatari's.

(though should anyone be able to afford a write-off like that?!)

Eventually it'll rot in West Palm Beach. Unless the airforce keeps it and adds it to the rotation with the other 747-8s being converted. Or kept as a parts donor for non-special parts. The engines alone are worth keeping it for.

@mattblaze

@maya_b @mattblaze
I think all one could say is yikes.

@quinn @maya_b @mattblaze

It is a white elephant in the truest diplomatic tradition.

@mattblaze Not to disagree, but they did that for the Air Force one at the seattle museum of flight. Not sure how that was funded.
@adamshostack That was one of the old 707 airframes, which had fewer of the fancy features. And I don't think it actually can fly once it was de-miled.

@mattblaze

'Hey, this is cool. Argentina is offering to buy 10B worth of my meme-coin. Maybe I should fly down there in #EmolumnentsForceOne and get that money."

*But on the way back to #MagaLardo *

"Attention! You in the plane! This is #IceBarbie. You are under "arrest" for flying a plane from the Southern Hemisphere. You will be abducted and sentenced to life in a torture dungeon."

Soooo.... I'm just saying there's bigger problems than just how expensive #KingShart 's hand-me-down flying palace bribe will be.

@bitcodavid I'm sorry I didn't post about whatever thing you thought is more important than whatever I posted about. Fortunately, you can post things yourself, and don't need to rely on me to post things you find important.

@mattblaze

Sorry. Not trying to overstep. Just adding my 2-Cents worth to the thread. With all the things wrong with Trump, we can all chime in.

@bitcodavid

Try posting in plain english without your cutesy hashtags next time and maybe your intentions won’t be misread.

@mattblaze
The plane will likely be full of cameras and microphones. Judging by this administration's concern for security , they won't be found or even looked for.