Graham McCallum
dansupThe fediverse just got way easier to join:
Preston Maness ☭@dansup Having flagship instances at the top of results isn't likely to help with federation 🤷
@aspensmonster neither is directing new users to unstable or non-mature servers
@dansup Clipping the top N results would go a long way to avoiding both sets of problems.
shom@dansup that's understandable but please consider removing the label official server.
Ranking it by total or monthly active users is fine but labeling something "official" makes all other servers inherently unofficial/bootleg/subpar.
bbbbbr@dansup @aspensmonster Something to consider: I solved a similar question of how to balance "quality" vs improved discoverability for more obscure entries (in a different domain) by doing:
- "featured + ~5% random shuffle/mix chance per entry"
This way there is plenty at the top of what many people may be looking for. Along with giving more obscure entries a better chance at visibility that may just pay off if the right person sees it.
Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂@aspensmonster @dansup Small instances make sense as communities that aggregate from the bottom and involve users starting from local projects or thematic initiatives. Small instances, on the other hand, must not be ovaries that collect disoriented users who come from the large databases of the fediverse, otherwise two problems are created:
- some small instances would not be able to handle the crowding
- some of those users would find themselves in poorly managed instances, with discontinuity of service and poorly connected to the rest of the Fediverse. In fact, some small instances are little gems, but a part of the small instances is burdened by a very high mortality and is poorly managed both in terms of reliability and in terms of privacy
- some small instances would not be able to handle the crowding
- some of those users would find themselves in poorly managed instances, with discontinuity of service and poorly connected to the rest of the Fediverse. In fact, some small instances are little gems, but a part of the small instances is burdened by a very high mortality and is poorly managed both in terms of reliability and in terms of privacy
Gabriel Pettier@dansup nice! small bug report, it does display non ascii domains like this xn--y9aey5fdz.xn--y9a3aq (i tested searching for blogging/writefreely/all/small/established.
myrmepropagandist@futurebird @dansup yeah, i irrationally couldn't resist adding "small", i know it's a big deal to some, i think/hope it's not hard to solve though.
benni@dansup great work! But i think this needs filters for moderation policies at least in rough categories like "libertarian, liberal, strict, ultra strict".
kopioSuggestion 1: "Asia" is too broad of a category. Might want to break it up.
Suggestion 2: Maybe add one more filter for the server's default/recommended language?
M. Grégoire@kopio @dansup
Yes, language is an important criterion, even more so than size of instance.
Other suggestions:
1. Maybe add a comment that it's not so important which instance you choose, since you can easily switch later.
2. Some people have received harassment when they create an account, because their instance federates with instances full of harassers. I know people are working on a long-term solution, but at present maybe the best thing would be to exclude some instances.
🇨🇦 Maverick ✊🇲🇲🇺🇦🇻🇪🇬🇱@dansup this looks really good! Nice work 👍
@dansup Unfortunately, there is no possibility to sort instances based on the number of active users, a criterion that was well present in the old fedidb.org interface. In fact, this criterion is much more important than the one related to the total number of users. In fact, there are very old instances with a mortality rate higher than 90% that are very numerous, but in reality are not very active.
PS: why are my poliverso.org instance and Ruud's friendica.world friendica.world instance still missing? 😭
ThePfromtheO
@ThePfromtheO Thanks for the good news. I hope friendica.world will come back soon too, it is currently the most active Friendica instance
@ThePfromtheO I couldn't find them because they weren't there 😅
It's already happened other times that they disappeared from fedidb.org
It's probably because of the robosts.txt file and some policies that we had to take to block the damned Meta bots
@notizie @ThePfromtheO I did just manually fix this, the issue was your server was unreachable by our crawler more than 2 times since May 5th, I think there is a bug in the crawler, I will work on a fix.
@dansup Great, thanks! ♥️
PS: If you think we need to fix some configuration issues, let us know what we need to do to fix it
Delopa@dansup Really nice. Any way to help translating? Would love to help onboarding my French friends 😁
Matmar Space@dansup so it's a site for picking instance?
Frej 🇩🇰@dansup some of the suggested platforms have very vague or overly technical descriptions making it unclear what they are for if you haven’t heard of them before
hothead :naas:@dansup It adds a value to the fedeverse
Lea de Groot TZ+10@dansup I dont think this works as is: step 2 is "choose platform". The naive user has _no idea_ on platforms. How are they supposed to choose here?
I would suggest that as a _last_ step, with preselecting all as the default
IMHO :)
(why would anyone be selecting by technology anyway?!?!)
(and, definitely, if you get only one choice in step 2 it should be skipped completely. I picked 'photography" when experimenting, and got only pixelfed and assumed it meant the main pixedfed instance, not the technology...)
but love the concept!!!!! :)
André Menrath@dansup Cool. A suggestion: ask what content you prefer to share, not what interests you?!
royal
readbeanicecream@dansup I like it. I would suggest to change the word "servers" to "communities" just because some people (non-technical) start to panic when they hear "technical" words.
Great job!
@readbeanicecream Server instead seems to me the best compromise: "server" is more usable and understandable than "instance". Be careful not to underestimate the fact that the term communities already exists in the Fediverse: in fact, the term "communities" is happily used by all Lemmy and Piefed users, to indicate in their platform the "Activitypub Groups", exactly like the Mbin "magazines", the BBCode "categories" and the Friendica "groups". Now since Lemmy represents one of the most used software in the Fediverse, it would not be wise to call the instances with the name of communities, but would instead create a bit of confusion
Torsten Torsten@dansup Is there a way to help translating it to e.g. German?
Sibshops@dansup It's missing the major lemmy servers, it seems. Edit: never mind, I just searched wrong.
rubin@dansup the most important thing a wise newbe should consider when picking is: who runs the instance? What kind of philosophies guide their mod decisions? What is the hosting setup (for reliability, regeonality and jurisdiction)? Do they block federation to anyone?
would be cool if this enabled insight to that stuff.
Jill ☁️
חנן כהן • Hanan Cohen@dansup is there a way for instances to specify country/preferred languages so that the db will pick it up? our Mastodon instance is hosted in France but it's an Israeli community (anti genocide if anyone wants to start this conversation).
Dennis Faucher 
Jorge Candeias@dansup A note on the info relating to tusky, the app: it also works with friendica accounts, despite treating and presenting them as a mastodon account (i.e., it loses friendica-specific capabilities), so it's not strictly a mastodon app.
Dan BocainNice job @dansup!
Bolt@dansup It should definitely have a little addition to the "Choose your platform" page that compares to existing sites.
Normal users don't know what the heck the difference is between Mastodon or Pixelfed, nor do they always realize that "photo sharing" is what you'd describe something like Instagram as.
I believe there should be some kind of comparison. (e.g. Mastodon - description - Similar to: Twitter/X, Bluesky)
@dansup I really do love the look though. This is significantly better than most onboarding processes for the fediverse have been historically!
Medea Vanamonde🏳️⚧️ ♀Yeah we need a lot more knuckle dragging tool users on here.
Jess Robinson@dansup microdotblog is a bit odd as a platform choice, there is only one of it, are they planning to allow more?
Mono👏👏👏 I was wondering if someone was going to do such a thing, and it's great you did!
nlbSuggestions:
- Add a language filter.
- Add the middle east as a separate region.
Ulli
Ronin Kensho@dansup that's really cool!