George Takei 
🏳️🌈🖖🏽Why are ICE agents masked to begin with? Our law enforcement officers shouldn’t be anonymous. Ever.
Seán Fenian@georgetakei Two reasons: To create fear and to avoid accountability.
AccordionBruce@zakalwe @georgetakei
If they won’t show badge #s how do we know they’re not criminals?
They could be impersonating cops and don’t deserve to be obeyed
This is how death squads act
Danni Storm@AccordionBruce @zakalwe @georgetakei I would be curious how self defense laws would work if you injured them while defending yourself from thugs without ID or badge. Because you do have a right to defend yourself and in the scenerio you don't know they are actually government law enforcement. Anyone can say they are 'the police'. That alone doesn't abdicate your right to defend your body and rights.
@danni_storm @AccordionBruce @georgetakei There's already at least one reported case where a man sexually assaulted a 51-year-old woman while masquerading as an ICE operative.
@zakalwe @georgetakei @danni_storm
It’s not something I’d want to take to court without being prepared to fight and be made an example of, quite possibly losing badly
It’s not something I’d want to take to court without being prepared to fight and be made an example of, quite possibly losing badly
@AccordionBruce @zakalwe @georgetakei True, but do you just comply with anyone who says they are police, even if they refuse to provide proof?
(Legitimate question, I'm curious how others see this too)
@danni_storm @zakalwe @georgetakei
I think it is a very reasonable thing to normalize not getting into a car with masked unidentified assailants
There should be some sort of standardized response for being kidnapped by terrorists
Under past dictatorships I guess they used to recommend yelling out your name so that bystanders would know you were being disappeared?
Certainly requesting aid from bystanders in identifying who is detaining you so that someone will know where you will be taken
Grinning Cat 
🚫👑@AccordionBruce @zakalwe @georgetakei Criminals wear masks. Law enforcement can order them to drop their weapons, and if that order isn't obeyed, they're justifiably afraid for their lives.
etsy@grinningcat @AccordionBruce @zakalwe @georgetakei the sentiment isn't wrong but this rhetoric is ripe to be taken advantage of. I wouldn't rely on the "criminals do this"
@etsyy @grinningcat @zakalwe @georgetakei
The irony, I suppose I would support all public servants wearing masks all the time if they were doing it to prevent the spread of disease
The irony, I suppose I would support all public servants wearing masks all the time if they were doing it to prevent the spread of disease
@AccordionBruce @grinningcat @zakalwe @georgetakei what irony are you referring to. perhaps I'm missing something
Levka@AccordionBruce @zakalwe @georgetakei
Having a badge to show doesn't make anyone not a criminal. Cops break the law pretty much every day.
@AccordionBruce @zakalwe @georgetakei
That doesn't stop them from committing crimes. For example:
https://kolektiva.social/@LevZadov/110626329795847684
https://kolektiva.social/@LevZadov/110699074921488487
https://kolektiva.social/@LevZadov/110844033269549056
etc.
Levka (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image The Riders Come Out at Night: Brutality, Corruption, and Cover-up in Oakland Ali Winston, Darwin BondGraham https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61272273-the-riders-come-out-at-night