Nicola Avanzi
adafruitTariffs just got real: our first $36K bill with 125% + 20% + 25% markup hits hard 💸. These are upfront costs - due before selling a single unit - causing serious cash flow strain, price increases, read more! 📦 http://adafruit.com/tariffbill
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C.N.@adafruit that's horrible. Hope you have the means to survive this!
I've bought your stuff before, and I'm in Europe. No idea how much you export again, but perhaps relocating part of the business might save the fees there? I imagine that would be a complicated choice though.
Come On Giant Asteroid!
Rapha Mack
Franchesca@adafruit This sucks! Can you relocate to Europe? Or are most of your customers in the US? I know I have been able to buy your components in the Netherlands in the past, so there must be some EU market at least. 😔
Jennifer JacobsI desperately hope that @adafruit and other US-based electronics prototyping suppliers survive the current presidential administration. My lab and many others depend on them for the fundamentals of research and development.
Our national capacity for engineering innovation is being dismantled on multiple fronts.
Diane@danielskatz was sharing a Congressional request for information on how to accelerate science.
https://fediscience.org/@danielskatz/114473161352982127
It is extremely tempting to submit comments along the lines of "first, stop destroying America's ability to do science"
Daniel S. Katz (@[email protected])
Request for Information (RFI) for the American Science Acceleration Project (ASAP), a bipartisan initiative aimed at making advancements in U.S. science ten times faster by 2030: https://www.heinrich.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/heinrich-rounds-seeking-public-input-on-initiative-to-accelerate-advancements-in-american-science-asap Unfortunately and as usual, this asks for comments on 1 DATA 2 COMPUTING 3 AI 4 COLLABORATION 5 PROCESSES but not software (other than what's embedded in AI)
Jon A. Cruz
Mark Crocker@adafruit Make sure you add a Tariff line item on your receipts right below Taxes. Some retailers think making it visible will help.
Old Man in the Shoe@adafruit Is there a manufacturer of this item in the USA?
Krutonium://@vicker249 @adafruit No, and there can't be, not without billions of dollars of investment over decades. And that's assuming you can legally manufacture those things in the US at all; for example Copyright plays a role, but also whether you can source the needed material in the US, period. There are things where outside of the US is the only option, period, no getting around it.
(And that's bonus extra true for anything going into electronics)
Alan@vicker249 @adafruit no. Nor is it possible for there to be in an economically viable way.
RedTechEngineer@RedTechEngineer @adafruit @vicker249 proximity to related manufacturing and both upstream and downstream logistics. Low cost of labor means unoptimized production can still happen at scale.
Muro deGrizecoOoof! That is awful! I am so sorry!
Rusty RingLooks like I won't be doing much ham radio anymore.
lambtor@adafruit there's gotta be an alternative to paying off terrorists.
Andy Mouse@adafruit Yes. From a great distance, it all looks like a great curtain falling.
Together with so many other people, I watch with some fascination, wondering what is going to be visible on the other side of it.
rmogull@adafruit Mark the products you are stuck with on the site and I bet many of us will buy the stock just to keep your business healthy.
John Jolly
Nonya Bidniss@adafruit Trump Take Hobby
Electron Wizard 
@adafruit Shoot, totally forgot you guys are based in the USA. Hopefully this utter joke of a decision gets reverted soon!
Clint@adafruit ouch! not sure how they think these tariffs are good for business in the US
@adafruit ouch. Not cool. If this persists, I'd suggest looking into opening an office/warehouse in Canada as an option (at least for fulfilling orders to the rest of the world)
Cascadia Secession Zone@adafruit does anyone understand how this figure is calculated? I am admittedly bad at math, but I don't understand at all how we get to $36,126.46 on this invoice.
125% + 20% + 25% = 165%
The sum of all non IMPORT EXPORT DUTIES on that invoice is $1007.84, 165% of $1007.84 is $1662.93, so $1007.84 + $1662.93 = $2670.77, right?
$36,126.46 is over 3,584% of $1007.84, right? How do you get there from 125% + 20% + 25%?
doephin@bajabanjo @adafruit the things you're summing are other fees, not the price which is what the tariffs are charged on.
Thierry 🅰️🕒@bajabanjo @adafruit
Usually you don't use addition for percentages but multiplication
Adding fees of 125% and 25% and 65% is price×(1+125/100)×(1+25/100)×(1+65/100)... it's price×4.64
Yes, the final price is 4.64 times the initial price (increase of 364%)
Richard Hendricks@bajabanjo @adafruit The tariff is on the value of the goods, not the other duties. Presumably they bought $21,250 worth of goods, it just isn't shown on this bill.
amd@bajabanjo the line items on that sheet aren’t showing the value of the goods coming in. @adafruit likely paid the vendor for their goods directly and just have to pay the tariffs and shipping fees through the carrier, DHL
Greg Parker@bajabanjo This invoice is from the shipping company for shipping costs only. The price of the goods themselves is not included. Presumably the seller charged about $22,000.
Annie@adafruit And god only knows what the bill will be next week.
Hi @adafruit
I wish you'll survive the crisis.
I'm sure there are countries which would welcome you, countries where health care and education are cost are mutualized by all citizens, where you don't have gun mass murders in schools, where there is no list of forbidden words, where the eye of Sauron does not look after you.
penpencilbrush🇨🇦@adafruit Ontario, Canada is a mere 2 hr flight away, or a one day drive.
Plus we have universal health care.
Plus we have universal health care.
The Febrile Muse@adafruit Adding 80 dollars/kg fruit?
Eric Canales@adafruit jokes on you for actually paying it and supporting this.
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Ravelights@adafruit oooooooooffffffffffffffffffff that hurts 😭
Ivor Hewitt@adafruit oof. 😱 That's terrifying, hope you can survive this madness.
XaetaCore 
@adafruit Pivot to European markets, or use non US alternatives.
Don't be bullied into paying
@XaetaCore @adafruit you know they also have tarrifs, right? that was kind of why this whole spat between orange man and the rest of the world began.
@RedTechEngineer @adafruit True, im not into business but i would move my corp to another country, America does not have a reliable economy atm, and its not the first time orange man fucked up trade relations
Jan Rychter@adafruit I would suggest making these costs visible to buyers.
Тукс добрий@adafruit Like what Drump supporters say, ironically, these tariffs are worth it....
Hopefully thanks to these tariffs, once they hit the American idiot, it won't vote for fascists again.
Patrick Van Oosterwijck@adafruit
Goodness. And I thought the $3500 tariff bill I just received was bad.
Bottom line is: many small businesses are not going to be able to cough up such amounts in a hurry for orders they placed when tariffs were still 10%. It is truly careless and wicked.
Goodness. And I thought the $3500 tariff bill I just received was bad.
Bottom line is: many small businesses are not going to be able to cough up such amounts in a hurry for orders they placed when tariffs were still 10%. It is truly careless and wicked.
Reay
Sonikku@adafruit
That is just insane. Holy hell.
That is just insane. Holy hell.