Dear @wikipedia...

DO NOT... I repeat!... DO!! FUCKING!! NOT!! Put AI into Wikipedia!!

Don't make me get the hose!!

@lambdacalculus @wikipedia yeah hey wikipedia can you please not compromise on your values. you must not allow slop generators to influence the site in any capacity

@soop @lambdacalculus the use of LLMs in generating article content has been opposed on many projects (notably the English Wikipedia) for quite some time, and I* don't foresee that changing any time soon.

This blog post is pretty vague, and I* wish there was more clarity on the plans. People are already pushing back for clarity within the community.

[*Sammy, one of the volunteers who runs this account]

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Much of that policy page would be less contentious (and more precise) if it said NLP instead of AI (it's another "lost term" like "hacker", after all.) Whether the focus that brings to the rest of it is what you're going for is another question...
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@eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus yes, it feels like any new feature is labelled "AI" now.
@eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus "AI" is not a "lost term like hacker" because (1) hacker isn't lost, and (2) "AI" never had a positive meaning. It was always scams. Going back to the 70s or earlier. This is like the 4th or 5th wave.
@dalias @eichin @wikipedia @lambdacalculus in the case of hacker it really just depends on who you ask

@dalias @eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus it’s not just scams. It’s just that established AI applications are now taken for granted. Shortest route for driving? Used to be an AI problem around 2000. Machine vision for robot vacuums etc? Definitely AI as of 2010.

AI winters are real and scam artists gather around LLMs right now, but it’s not all crap. And there are other machine learning applications.

@sampe @eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus None of those were marketed as "AI" to begin with. They were real concrete problems with their own names. "AI" is always the name for when you want folks to believe a computer can do things it can't actually do.