Fascists *prefer* plausible excuses for their actions, because they are chickenshit cowards who would rather gaslight you than risk admitting who they are.
But it is the height of silliness to imagine that a group whose entire raison d’être is violent domination will refrain from violent domination if you just don’t provoke them.
Sometimes, my liberal family members express concerns that antifascist action will just "give the Right more ammo", as if fashos are operating under the same liberal mindset where all of politics is the exchanging of Compromise Cards in some sort of shitty board game. Fashy-types don't need ammo. Their whole political and rhetorical strategy is hitting you in the head with a rock over and over and then getting everyone to argue endlessly over whether it's actually comparable to the last several times they did that because it's technically a different rock.
In my experience the only mercy you'll ever get from them is when you leave. I'm not telling anyone whether to fight, I'm telling everyone the enemy is toxic as they come. If you're not fighting them, there is no place for you there; get away from them immediately and establish yourself somewhere else, far away. /gen
@HeavenlyPossum
Don't fight back when the bullies put your head in the toilet, it will just encourage them!
It didn't make sense when I was 10, it makes less sense watching grown-ass adults use the same logic that's never worked. That history itself says never works.
Who was it that told you not to fight back against the bullies? The grownups, that's who. They were incorrect then, they are just as incorrect now.
Bullies *really* love this "turn the other cheek" the religions keep telling you. They really want to test how far we are prepared to go before we fight back. There are no way of not encouraging them when your pure existence is offending them.
/Kind regards
50+'er
A religion is a systematic set of beliefs, rituals, and codifications of behaviour that make up a particular group's worldview (views about the world at large and humanity's place in the world). Typically, these beliefs and practices center around some aspect of the supernatural (also often referred to as the "divine"), most often expressed as some form of deity, i.e., one or more gods and goddesses.
Abuser logic.
Same logic that turns neighbors into collaborators, when they snitch on the people who ARE trying to fight back.
Victim-blaming. When the oppressor uses collective punishment on an entire community, and members of that community tell each other, this is all YOUR fault for misbehaving. Instead of, you know, the fault of the actual perpetrators who set up the whole situation and are responsible for carrying out the punishment.
Cowards who'd rather just keep rolling over and trying to pacify their abusers forever and ever and ever than risk any further wrath-- blaming themselves, BUYING INTO the shit the abuser tells them, becoming an extension of the abuser's will.
Slaves who hurry to click their own shackles on because they'd feel exposed and insecure without them.
Something like “I would rather let the fascists take over than risk giving the fascists an excuse to take over”
Popular variant being "We did fight back, they cracked down, thus we stopped."
Uh huh, yeah.
Is as much about the motivations of those who ostensibly oppose fascism as it is about the motivations of those who overtly uphold same.
@EndicottAuthor @HeavenlyPossum
Better we should intimidate bullies than to let them intimidate us. I did. I was a scrawny, four-eyed nerd with chronic bronchitis. I was an obvious grade school target. I was much to weak to fight back if I fought fair. So I didn't. I put a bar of soap in a sock in my back pocket with the top sticking out so I could draw it quickly. Then I waited for them to come to me. Then I knocked a bully down with it. Boy was he surprised. Before he could get back up I jumped on top of him and beat his face black, blue and bloody. It wasn't on school property so I didn't get in trouble.
The next day his friend threatened me, also not on school property. I pulled out the sock and he fell over his own feet trying to back up before I hit him. I beat him bloody, too.
After that the bullies left me alone. That sock hanging out of my pocket served as an excellent deterrent.
I had fought like a berserker in ríastrad, so I must be "crazy". Nobody wants to fight a "crazy" person because you don't know what they might do. They might bit your nose off or something. They might not accept your surrender. Most mammals when they know they're beaten expose their belly and whimper. Most mammals stop fighting when the other mammal gives up. Not "crazy" people. Sometimes they just keep fighting. So the bullies at my school decided that discretion was the better part of valor. As well they should have. I was a dangerous kid.
Up until my stroke I was dangerous adult, too. My balance is kind of wonky now. I'm also seriously old. I cough a lot from my COPD. My main finger still works, though.
So the wise move for bullies everywhere is don't f*ck with me. It's a sure way to live longer.
See:
I'm a boomer. I own guns. I'm too old and disabled to soldier. I'd be a danger to myself and others. But I am capable of defending our home. So's my SO. If a #MAGAt pogrom ever heads for our place we're going to take the first dozen down with us. Guns are for self-defense, not revolutions. There is no military solution to capitalism, or even it's tool fascism. We tried that. It didn't work. It's not a military problem. It's a social problem. So I'm hoping we can sort out our burgeoning fascism problem without any bloodshed. Fascists are bullies. That's what the word means. "Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come." -- George Orwell Not all cowards are bullies but all bullies are cowards. With a sufficient show of our overwhelmingly superior numbers we can back them down. But we'd better have a Plan B.
@athamanatha @leguinian_utopia
Yes, without a doubt. But telling other people not to defend themselves because it could provoke a general crackdown misses the point that fascists in power *are a general crackdown.*
@HeavenlyPossum @athamanatha @leguinian_utopia
Back when it was age-appropriate for me, I read Rolling Thunder and attended the meeting-counterpart of the same. In Anarcho-communism, then-we had a saying: the power is [in and of itself as opposed to any of its or its use's details] the abuse [of power] (wording: Crimethink ex-Workers Collective). So once there's fascism it's too late to avoid provoking them. The fascists already provoke each other.
I haven't espoused "revolution" WAIT OUT
@HeavenlyPossum @athamanatha @leguinian_utopia
[continUSAed]
since my late 20's. Afterwards my strategy has been to complain and when it doesn't work, to get run out of there or to walk out. In any case I keep return to a minimum. The only reasons I haven't left the country to Canada yet with an intent to get into West Germany are:
• all my money is less than the one-way coach-class bus fare.
• my passport isn't in yet.
I viewed the coercion and hypocrisy as the point. Now I view WAIT OUT
@athamanatha @HeavenlyPossum @leguinian_utopia
Well, you avoid being the soonest target by leaving immediately and by not intentionally attracting attention. In my Anarcho-communist days I wanted to get shot or blown up. On two occasions the same driver nearly ran me over with the same dark red pickup truck. No longer. Afterwards in my thirties, a white van drove up and its driver talked to me. I said suspectisms e.g. "I don't consent to any searches," and "I wish to remain silent." WAIT OUT
@athamanatha @HeavenlyPossum @leguinian_utopia
[continUSAed]
talked over a radio or pretended there was a radio and in any case drove off. /gen