Jiří Štefka
It's FOSSLenovo offers cheaper laptops with Linux pre-installed.
Helga@itsfoss goddamnit. I recently bought a Lenovo and the Linux ones were all over my budget, so had to pay the Windows tax. Knew I should have waited.
Harald 哈拉德I can understand that - but if you have the right shop you can order it with a new keyboard (as example).
And the Thinkpads (best computer for Linux) are often in a excellent condition - because they was used in offices on the desktop with external keyboard, monitor and so on ...
But I can understand: Sometimes we need something new just for ourselves - it's good for the soul and totally okay. 🙃
maddy 'oreganoid' OLD ACCOUNT@itsfoss semi-rare lenovo w. my yoga c740 is made of metal plates and will never die but it was ridiculously expensive for a shittily-specced laptop. does have touchscreen and pen support though, very thin but not easily upgradeable
@easterman They like to solder RAM now. 😓
SomeAnoTooter@itsfoss only Canada and USA? :'(
Epistomai@SomeAnoTooter @itsfoss sh*t. I remember hyped when I heard there would be laptops with suse 20 years ago, but never in my country 🤦♂️
@SomeAnoTooter Check with your regional Lenovo website, maybe they offer Linux on laptops?
RejZoR@itsfoss I prefer laptops without any OS. They are rare, but they are out there. I used to prefer ones with Windows, but I fell in love with Ubuntu few years ago and now it's the first thing I install on my laptops.
I don't know why people transition relatively easily from Windows to MacOS, but something like Ubuntu is so alien to them even though it's almost the same damn transition as it is to MacOS. Even the dock is there...
Hierarchy@itsfoss glad that they are offering linux pre-installed, especially because for some people its the hardest part and if they can make everything to work, or at least make it easier to use out-of-box for the user, then its really good! And they can save money not choosing windows either!
For me, advanced user, I wish they would offer laptops without OS, so I can do my own installation without forcibly paying for the windows which I dont want or need
Hopefully in the future we see more brands
@itsfoss In Finland a few models appear to have the option of no OS, but unfortunately no Linux options.
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Harald Hannelius 
Timo JyrinkiFor many countries the OS filter does not work, you need to find the customize option and check each interesting (#Thinkpad) model. I wrote about it at https://mastodon.social/@timojyrinki/113635736674245726
See also #Ubuntu Finland's page https://ubuntu-fi.org/kaupalliset-palvelut/tietokoneet-ja-laitteet/
These #certified models have been available for years, and still many pay the windows tax and might get incompatible components, do not know about the availability, so keep on spreading the word!
Fossman@opensourceopenmind That's nice.
François @JuraAh ah China trade war with US ?? 🤔
@itsfoss and a community project is looking into building EU OS, an OS based on fedora Linux to create an alternative to Windows and MacOS. This could in the long run mean more software independent of the US. Exciting times for Linux.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/eu-os-bold-step-toward-digital-sovereignty-europe
⚝ Mirko ⚝@itsfoss It's not a tax, it's a license fee. Huge difference, even if the result may be similar.
el_haych2024@itsfoss been running Linux Mint for past few months on my Lenovo Yoga that's from 2022 (I think). Been a pretty good experience so far.
nieebel@itsfoss recent #Lenovo #Thinkpad #Laptop like T14 Gen 5 has pretty decent #repairability score:
https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/laptop-repairability-scores
Not as good as #framework but it is still good to have alternatives.
Be aware of proprietary binary blobs in #firmware and #bios hence I can recommend to also have a look here for other great #laptops:
https://www.coreboot.org/
https://puri.sm/
https://system76.com/
https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform
And more here: https://pad.hacc.space/green-hardware-ranking?view#Laptops--desktops--mini-PCs
#ifixit #right2repair #rightToRepair #coreboot #libreboot #purism #system76 #MNT #mnt_reform
grynnan@itsfoss in Sweden you can get a ThinkPad T14s Gen 6 AMD withot OS for ~€140 off. (Or 1400sek)