Need to do some quick research for terminology and naming for a future project (you can probably guess the general topic by my questions).

Part 1: Without doing a web search, do you know what Kessler Syndrome is?

Yes (I'm 30 or older)
36%
Yes (I'm under 30)
3.4%
No (I'm 30 or older)
53.8%
No (I'm under 30)
6.8%
Poll ended at .
Part 2: Without doing a web search, do you know what the Exxon Valdez is?
Yes (I'm 30 or older)
78.9%
Yes (I'm under 30)
2.1%
No (I'm 30 or older)
12.6%
No (I'm under 30)
6.5%
Poll ended at .
Part 3: Without doing a web search, do you know what the Montreal Protocol is?
Yes (I'm 30 or older)
29.9%
Yes (I'm under 30)
2.7%
No (I'm 30 or older)
60.5%
No (I'm under 30)
6.8%
Poll ended at .
5 minutes into this set of polls and the answers are already super interesting. Cool. Thanks for participating!

Here's a different way of summarizing these (very unscientific, very biased, but still super interesting) poll results. Name recognition of selected environment-related terms:

Recognize "Kessler Syndrome"?
40% (over 30)
34% (under 30)

Recognize "Exxon Valdez"?
86% (over 30)
25% (under 30)

Recognize "Montreal Protocol"?
33% (over 30)
29% (under 30)

Exxon Valdez is the "winner" for name recognition (at least among the older demographic). Interesting!!

@sundogplanets

.. but not surprisin', right love .. ⁉️👌

@sundogplanets Exxon Valdez was the disaster while Montreal Protocol was the solution. I bet many people have heard of “hole in the ozone”.

@sundogplanets
I'm confused now. How did you get the ages of the participants?

EDIT: Nevermind. For some reason, my app never showed the actual polls, just the questions.

@brunthal it was part of the poll; each of the questions was set up with four answer options, (I've Heard of it / not) * (I'm over 30 / I'm under 30)
@ChateauErin
That's odd. I never saw an actual poll. Just the three questions.
@brunthal maybe some cross-instance sync issues. If you look directly at https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/114388928566747806 do you see the polls?
@ChateauErin
If I use the website, I can see the polls. Also when I use a different app. But with the Fedilab app, I didn't see them.
@brunthal @ChateauErin Huh, interesting. Sorry about that, I had no idea...
@sundogplanets no reason to be sorry imo, polls are a useful feature and that's the first time I've ever heard of a Fediverse client not supporting them.
@sundogplanets
No need to be sorry about this. Apparently there is a bug in the current version of the app I'm using. 😃
@ChateauErin
@sundogplanets
The bug is fixed, and I can see the polls now. 😃
@ChateauErin
@brunthal the answers were "yes and I'm under 30", "yes and I am over 30" etc @sundogplanets
@ushcala
Yeah, I have seen it in a browser now. In my app it looked like this, without a poll.
@sundogplanets
@brunthal @sundogplanets Self-reported. I didn't lie, I'm too old to use lies in such minor matters.
@sundogplanets I checked Wikipedia – Exxon Valdez has a relatively large "In popular culture" section (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill#In_popular_culture) – though Towing Jehowah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towing_Jehovah), a great book, was not mentioned :). Kessler syndrome has 3 entries in the "in fiction" section (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome#In_fiction). Montreal Protocol has none of those. CC @researchbuzz
Exxon Valdez oil spill - Wikipedia

@sundogplanets I just searched for Kessler Syndrome, thinking it was a disease I didn't have and now I think it is a future disaster I must worry about 😢

@sundogplanets

The results track with my expectations...

The Exxon Valdez incident happened back when things were in the mainstream news for more than 24hrs.

Kessler Syndrome is probably well-known only to astronomy and sci-fi buffs.

Montreal Protocol must not have been mentioned by name much -- though everyone from that era would know hair spray and refrigerants had to change to spare the ozone layer.

@sundogplanets I wonder if Deepwater Horizon is more recognizable.

Around the time of the Deepwater Horizon spill I did a “back of the envelope” calculation going back far enough to include the Exxon Valdez, and found that in that 21-year period we spilled about ½ a percent of the amount of oil we burn as intended in a single day.

In 21 years we spilled 0.005 times what we burn in one day.

We’re burning a completely ridiculous amount of oil

@sundogplanets putting it the other way ‘round:

Every day in the U.S. we burn 2000 times as much oil as was spilled by the Deepwater Horizon plus the Exxon Valdez plus all the smaller spills in between.

21 years worth of spills, 2000 times over, is what we burn in 1 day

@sundogplanets Would you mind explaining why you chose 30? Montreal was close to 40 years ago; Exxon Valdez more than 35 — and for a person to have caught those as part of the public consciousness they would have to have been at least primary school age. So, just curious why you picked 30 and not 40.
@xahteiwi It was arbitrary. Like I said, this was totally not scientific and not trying to be :) I picked 30 because I was talking to a grad student and was somewhat shocked that I had to explain the Exxon Valdez to them, and they're closer to 30 than 40, so that's really why I picked it
@sundogplanets I knew about Kessler and Montreal (over 30) but marked "no" because I didn't know the names.

@sundogplanets

Apparently I'm one of the few people under 30 following you. XD

@amin @sundogplanets Yeah, this corner of the fedi is old seems to be one of the takes. :)
@modulux
Is there one that isnt😂
@grassytea Probably not, fedi seems old for social network stuff. I'm probably at the "hurting oneself by breathing wrong" life stage already.

@modulux

At around 2.5 × 30, I find that an interesting dividing point. In the distant past. 😀

@amin @sundogplanets

@sundogplanets now that I looked up the two I didn't know - I know of them in concept, but not the names. I guess that's why you're doing the poll.
@sundogplanets
No
Yes
And yes, but I couldn't give details about it
@sundogplanets here’s my conclusion: I feel old.
@sundogplanets I feel like my answers were "I don't remember anything because I'm old."
@sundogplanets "We're all old" is the main takeaway I'm getting.
@MichaelTBacon @sundogplanets after googling it I found out that I am very bad in remembering names for things
@sundogplanets very cool poll - had to look up two of them: still don't really understand one of them, but at least I'll recognize the term 😉
@sundogplanets For the middle one, it might matter whether someone is American (as in the continent).

@SylviaFysica @sundogplanets

Exxon Valdez was the only one of the three I knew by name, largely due to the ship having been placed prominently in the Scorpions' Wind of Change -music video.

Might have known it otherwise as well, but vaguely enough that I wouldn't have dared to claim "yes". As it is, the event was out of focus, and before writing this post I would have placed it as having happened around 1995.

(Edit: after googling, I would have known the others by another name. I'm 40, btw.)

@sundogplanets
The most interesting result for me was that >80% of those who participated are 30 or older.

@dummzeuch @sundogplanets As an older person, I'd guess that's because old people are more likely to have been alive when they happened, and so are able to remember them, while youngsters weren't, but don't like to admit it for fear of hurting our feelings.

That's just a guess, though, and perhaps a "can't remember" option would have made it a little clearer.

@sundogplanets np, I do feel stupid now though
@sundogplanets The biggest result to me is just the lack of under-30s, haha.

@sundogplanets I felt especially old because I answered Yes on the only one of the three where age groups gave different results, and No on the other two.

After looking up the other two, I don't feel that bad, because one feels like a specialist topic and the other one, while being a general news topic that I'm definitely aware of, wasn't publicized too much with that name where I'm from.

@sundogplanets I too knew of the ideas but not the names of Kessler and Montreal.
@sundogplanets it also shows that Mastodon appears to have an older user base. Not a specific question you asked, still interesting ☺️
@sundogplanets i did know about all - but only 1 by name- the other names did Not Ring the Bell
@sundogplanets the holy trinity of Saskatchewan indy films, they're all about being trapped in a grain elevator over winter, but otherwise have nothing in common.

@sundogplanets Yeah, it's interesting, because I kind of know all of them, but still wasn't able to tell or recall what these names mean (except the Exxon Valdez). I also totally forgot about the name of the Montreal protocol, despite it being mentioned in some videos I saw on YouTube

It's as if I only knew them by being the thing, but not by their names.

@sundogplanets
Oh my gosh. I just spent the majority of my workday going through tutorials for the CRM we're moving to. I thought I was burned out on learning for the day.
I see your poll, and after I click no on a couple of answers, I'm off to learn some more. TBH, your topics are fun learning. 🛰🌎
@sundogplanets are you getting enough data on people under 30?
@sundogplanets
Nope. But it sounded familiar. And when I look it up, I see I knew of it, but not by name.
@TerryHancock @sundogplanets same. I voted and then looked it up and realized I sort of knew about it - I was a young enough kid at the time that the name wouldn’t have registered.
@biblioeclectica @TerryHancock @sundogplanets I want to also echo this. I was aware of all of these events/concepts, but not by name... just knew the idea around it.