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Peter Gleick
k3ym𖺀@petergleick well that's alarming.
Can you help me understand the pattern of fluctuations leading up to where we are today?
@k3ym0 "Milankovitch cycles" of natural climate variability. Works on 10,000-100,000 year cycles. Wikipedia has a good summary.
Brian DearAt some point maybe enough people will start thinking, you know, maybe the phrase “climate change” is actually as weak, boring, and ineffective as yelling “upholstery combustion!” in a crowded theatre?People just go “huh?” and “shut up.”
Maybe we need to adopt a more compelling, immediate, urgent term?
Maybe scientists have made a gigantic error, while the oil and gas industry are ROTFL?
🤷♂️
Albert Cardona@brianstorms @petergleick Describing it as "ecosystem collapse", or worse, "the end of free breathable air, moderate temperatures, and regular, predictable rains for agriculture" might alarm a few. Yet that's where we're heading.
Corpomancer@albertcardona @brianstorms @petergleick We prefer the term "premium breathable air" as one of our upcoming profit goals.
Court Cantrell does not comply@albertcardona @brianstorms @petergleick I saw someone refer to it as "climate burning," which also seems too weak to me but still closer than "climate change."
I propose: PLANET DEATH.
@courtcan @brianstorms @petergleick
"Climate wrecking" is like "climate change" except the direction of the change is made explicit.
@albertcardona @courtcan @petergleick
I don't think "climate" is a word that the average person appreciates or thinks about in the same way as scientists. It is too large-scale, not immediate enough. And also, given "climate control" in cars etc, it's become more of a term referring to comfort, and not planetary systems and processes.
John E. Bartley, III (D) K7AAY@brianstorms @petergleick To borrow a phrase from Niven & Pournelle, "Random death in the life support system!"
JanisEco-collapse...
if for no other reason cacao will be one of the crops people cherish that stands to go quite early.
MWT@janisf @brianstorms @petergleick also coffee. The world will stop running because everyone will be asleep and have blinding headaches.
@mwt @brianstorms @petergleick True, but chocolate hits 'em right in the Capitalist Christian gender binary, and that's the target audience. (Happy Easter! Offer ends June 8th. ;) )
WWeiss53@petergleick
We live in interesting times but wish they were less so.
We live in interesting times but wish they were less so.
Johnno@petergleick
Nothing to see here!
How could we do this?
Ken S@petergleick … thanks for the update. Now need to update my profiles from 425ppm
Soucpl@petergleick time is ticking quickly with nothing to be done
PixelEcho@petergleick I remember seeing a similar graph with marking for large events, such as ice ages, and it really put into perspective how severe the current increase is.
Vrtxd@petergleick Note that even this graph is actually generous, in the sense that it does not include all the other greenhouse gases we are also emitting at critical rates. If my memory serves me right, factoring in these CO2 equivalents already puts us well beyond 500 ppm. Maybe @breadandcircuses can weigh in on this?
@vrtxd @petergleick @breadandcircuses Indeed. Unnatural gas (CH4, methane) is 84X as powerful at greenhousing as CO2 is. Wells leak. Pipelines leak. Stoves & furnaces don't completely combust.
@503bartley @petergleick @breadandcircuses Plus livestock methane, plus nos, plus F gases, and warming potential depends on the timescale, but yup.
@vrtxd @breadandcircuses That's correct. It also turns out CO2 levels haven't been this high for millions of years, much longer than the 800,000 year record I've plotted here.
The Baltimore Analyst@petergleick @vrtxd @breadandcircuses Would you able to do a chart over millions of year? would love to have this in chart form, I have some friends I need to send this too.
Wanstead Climate Action@VTech @petergleick @vrtxd @breadandcircuses
HI. There's a good chart of atmospheric CO₂ (individual studies) during the Cenozoic at the main Keeling Curve site.
The last time CO₂ was this high, our ancestors had tails.
🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻@WansteadClimateAction @VTech @petergleick @vrtxd @breadandcircuses
Soon, tails will rule the earth again.
SearingTruth"As the water breached to fill our lungs the voice of the yeomen still rang piercing and hollow upon our ears.
'There is nothing to fear. All is well.'"
SearingTruth
ridicol 🍉🇵🇸 🏳️🌈💚@petergleick we're stuffed, but hey, at least the 1% has made some billions!
CurroFaiter@petergleick To the moon.
kim_harding ✅@petergleick Also needs an arrow at the point where humans were told that there was a problem...
polprog68k@petergleick to the moon
distincte&clareMany folks now indicate the year of their birth for instance by giving the exact amount of CO2 in the atmosphere at that time. However, I can't find a list of the CO2-concentrations per year, one by one. Where do I get this data from?
Thanks for help!
Christoph Schnegg@distincteclare
You find a table about CO2 concentration over the years here:
https://www.volker-quaschning.de/datserv/CO2/index.php
(it's a German page, scroll down a bit)
@petergleick
Weltweite Kohlendioxidemissionen und -konzentration in der Atmosphäre
Deutschland ist trotz aller Anstrengungen auch 2023 noch unter den Top 10 der Länder mit den höchsten energiebedingten Emissionen. Nach dem pandemiebedingten Rückgang im Jahr 2020 wurden seit dem Jahr 2021 wieder Rekordwerte der weltweiten Kohlendioxidemissionen verzeichnet.
Crovanian@petergleick this seems less than ideal…