Deniz Opal

Recently people have told me they don't need my help they can get AI to code.

Then I watch them like...

Apr 20 at 12:29pmWeb
Show threadLyrialApr 20
@selzero This is great, but would be better if vibe coding spawned more bugs with each punch.
Show threadharryprayivApr 20

@selzero I mean, if you’re actively gatekeeping, can you blame them?

I spent DECADES not getting shit done because of all of the edgelords on #stackoverflow, literally *punishing me* for asking a question.

AI is almost always wrong… but at least I don’t have to deal with insecure #edgelords making it impossible to ask to a question without removing it as a “dupe”.

I’m well aware of the repercussions to AI. Software engineering will suffer badly. #Enshittification will run rampant.

Show threadDeniz OpalApr 20
@harryprayiv I'm sorry you had that experience with bro coders. It is important to find a nice safe ecosystem when learning anything really.
Show threadHakan BayındırApr 20

@selzero @harryprayiv I took a completely different route of doubling down on books, manuals and official documentation, but StackOverflow bullying is real. After being bullied a couple of times, I stopped asking questions there, and I never felt part of the site ever after (I still feel the same).

The idea of StackOverflow was great, but the compounding and the ego came with the scores is real and enables great deal of bullying via "I have a higher rank than you".

Show threadDeniz OpalApr 20
@bayindirh @harryprayiv I started learning to code in the mid 80s, it seems like such a different world now 😱
Show threadharryprayivApr 20

@selzero @bayindirh I started in 2000 with PIC microcontrollers then dabbled and evolved until recently when I’ve decided to switch from filmmaking to something more intellectually interesting like Haskell or Purescript development.

I was always meaning to learn Haskell but it felt too intimidating. Then, I finally got a nonjudgmental coding assistant (an AI 😫) to prove to myself that I’m not a COMPLETE moron.

Now, I tell my AI that *it* is an idiot. 😂

Show threadHakan BayındırApr 21

@harryprayiv @selzero
I started playing with computers in 90s, and was coding in mid 90s. I was always interested in low level coding, so C and C++ is my favorite (yet I use tons of other languages).

Yes, the world has changed a ton. From hard to get books to piles of knowledge when you look to the correct places, but this doesn't allow some "Bro Coders" to point fingers and insult me because I haven't explored their precious problem space, yet, and assume that I never touched a computer.

Show threadDanni Storm 🇺🇦 🇺🇦Apr 20
@selzero This missed the bug taking out the vibe coding.
Show threadMarcos DioneApr 20
@selzero not sure if it counts like vibe coding, but last year the CTO and a dev kept throwing ChatGPT to a corner case for TWO MONTHS before another colleague and me found and fixed the bug in 2 days just by analyzing and understanding the actual problem.
Show threadslotosApr 20

@mdione @selzero Reminds me of the time a company I worked for kept trying to bribe officials to solve their problem, until I wrote a proper request referencing law articles and the problem went away.

Magical thinking works until it doesn’t.

Show threaddaveApr 21
@selzero It's as bad as trusting mainstream news to always tell you the truth.
There are enough lines in any broadcast to fold in the propaganda neatly.
They only need to get in a few subliminal messages, then they win, you lose.
but mostly it works pretty well.
Well likewise, AI will write enough good code to impress you. Then what?