Yeah, I won’t be sending any Feedback to Apple if they are using personal and sensitive info in logs to train their AI models.

I think I remember somebody over there once saying that “privacy is a fundamental human right”.
https://hachyderm.io/@cocoafrog/114355281286615868

Joachim (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image Are you f* kidding me, Apple?! After a long time, I filed another bug report using Feedback Assistant because the bug was bad enough that it’s worth the effort of writing it all down. When uploading a sysdiagnose (or probably any other attachments) you get the usual privacy notice that there is likely a lot of private and other sensitive info in those log files. It’s not a great feeling but it is what it is with diagnostic data and I mostly trust the folks at Apple to treat it with respect and I trust the Logging system to redact the most serious bits. However, when filing a feedback today a noticed a new addition to the privacy notice: "By submitting, you […] agree that Apple may use your submission to [train] Apple Intelligence models and other machine learning models." WTF? No! I don’t want that. It’s extremely shitty behavior to a) even ask me this in this context where I entrust you with *my* sensitive data to help *you* fix your shit to b) hide it in the other privacy messaging stuff and to c) not give me any way to opt out except for not filing a bug report. Do you really need *more* reasons for developers not to file bug reports? Are the people who decided to do this really this ignorant about the image Apple‘s bug reporting process has in the community? How can you even think for a single second that this is an acceptable idea? So, WTF, Apple?!

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@jamesdempsey @simonbs @cocoafrog I will continue to send bug reports, but I will also remove the sysdiagnose before sending and put a comment stating why. Probably wishful thinking, but if enough people do that, hopefully they’ll change their policy.

@kevinbhayes @simonbs @cocoafrog

I definitely understand.

I've had Feedbacks I've submitted kicked back because of a missing sysdiagnose where the sysdiagnose has no value whatsoever
(like ‘Please add this feature to Xcode Cloud’).

I really don't want to spend the time writing a detailed piece of feedback that might never reach the team because of no sysdiagnose or on the chance Apple might change their policy.

@jamesdempsey to be charitable to them they are probably only ingesting Feedback/Radars into systems used internally.

But more likely legal has asked them to put that clause in every place they accept data from customer/users as an ass covering exercise.

But yeah, just another reason to dislike Feedback Assistant aka the black hole into which all Apple Platforms developer sorrow is thrown to almost never be heard from again.

@orj Yes and they should spell out what will be used and how instead of a blanket consent just to submit any sort of feedback.

So if I choose not to give my broad and unlimited consent, then I won't be filing feedback, because that is the only other option available.