George Takei 
🏳️🌈🖖🏽Never forget.
TheBison@georgetakei Yes, and that's the democratic party who chose genocide instead of defending trump and preventing all of this. So they're not "good people". They're horrible genocidal maniacs who knew and didn't care abt what trump would do. No votes for evil, no matter where they are.
Maier Amsden@TheBison @georgetakei If you live in a swing state & refused to vote for Kamala, you own a little piece of Trumpism & its notably worse treatment of Palestinians & so many other non-rich, non-white people. You own Obrego Garcia, Khalil, Ozturk... Yes, Democrats (who own this too) are shitty genocide-lite elitists, but Trump is gleeful about hurting brown people & Muslims. He's anxious to chop up the spoils of genocide. He's dismantling what little we had left of representative government.
@MaierAmsden @georgetakei The "lesser of two evils" is still factually evil. You are on the side of evil, just like maga. Ya'll have NO moral ground to stand on with ur "high horse". Ya'll sold ur souls to murder children, for genocide, police brutality, price gouging, an unjust "justice" system, corruption, etc. Ur no different from maga. Ya'll ant evil to harm the innocent while ya'll stay comfortable in ur imaginations. Accept this literal fact or have the self respect and kp ur mouth shut. I'm tired of ya'll maga-mind teletubbies smdh
@TheBison @georgetakei You chose *worse* evil. Why you think that makes you better is a mystery to me. How you think that makes anything better for anyone is a mystery to me. Be sure to let Khalil and Ozturk know that their suffering (and the suffering of countless others) is the price paid for your idiotic, pointless vanity.
@MaierAmsden @georgetakei Lying just shows u know ur wrong. I chose no evil. That's how u don't forsake ur soul. Ya'll chose genocide, police brutality, corruption, etc. Face the reality that ya'll aren't much better than maga. Then hopefully work on bettering urself
@TheBison @georgetakei Who's "y'all?" People who don't make stupid harmful decisions that sell out the country to the worst autocrats?
@MaierAmsden @georgetakei Literally urself. Yet just like maga, u don't care
@TheBison @georgetakei Your mind-reading abilities are about as sound as your logic.
@MaierAmsden @georgetakei U have a maga mindset. That's just how it is. Don't like it? Then start thinking honestly
cqd_sosTo be fair, Germans do have somewhat of an excuse.
A lost war, Treaty of Versailles and what it entailed. Hyperinflation, massive destruction of wealth. Great Depression, which made the US demand back all the loans Germany heavily depended on. You can, in hindsight, somehow understand how, everything taken together, and happening within 15 years, could destabilize a country and provide radicals with a shot.
In case you don't know what hyperinflation means, you pay three bucks for a loaf of bread today. 300 bucks next month. 300 thousand six months later. Meaning all your savings, in cash or in a bank account, are gone.
Shirley Eugest
Nick@cqd_sos @georgetakei Do you know what they call people who make excuses for the Holocaust?
Oliver Vanderb@Nickiquote @cqd_sos @georgetakei
I don't think he makes excuses about the holocaust. It's about the "Machtergreifung", the period which gave the Nazis power and that before. And they didn't came into power by saying "Hey, we like to kill millions of jews." The holocaust came later during the war.
At least you had the hyperinflation, the contract of versailles, the stab-in-the-back legend and the general nazi propaganda which led to the regime.
You can't have an excuse nowadays for similar
@Ollivdb @Nickiquote @georgetakei
People often make the mistake of conflating things, when judging them with the benefit of hindsight.
A point you hear often, for example, is that Hitler alluded to his plans for the Jews in his book already. So how was it possible that people didn't see it coming?
Well, hardly anyone took it seriously, at the time. Hitler was understood to be saying a lot of things.
Much like, now, people are surprised that Trump actually meant what he said about tariffs.
@Ollivdb @Nickiquote @georgetakei
Trump also talks about annexing Canada, and Greenland. Regularly. Supposed it actually happened someday, in a bloody fashion, the same question would arise. How was it possible that people didn't see it coming?
@Ollivdb @[email protected] @georgetakei did you miss the bit in the original post about gas chambers? There are historical factors contributing to fascism. There are no excuses.
Janie Karma S 🏳️🌈🖖🏿"To be fair,"
There is ALWAYS an apologist like you trying to be the devils advocate, go fuck yourself.
FUCK YOU.
Earthshine@georgetakei seems like every day lately I have to tap the sign: https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html if you want to know how it started, look around you right now.
They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer, an excerpt, 2017 edition
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Toni Aittoniemi@georgetakei Auswich was also not inside german borders, note.
milkytwix@gimulnautti @georgetakei Yes it was. The borders where extended over poland by war, but nevertheless it was a german principality by fact. No other government allowed this, it was the german gouvernement.
BoudPer the Polish-language Wikipedia [1] and the source it uses (the Oświęcim town council web site) [2], Oświęcim (also called Auschwitz in German or אָשפּיצין in Yiddish) was in the Polish Second Republic - since independence in 1918. Look for the red/pink area at the western edge of the Kraków Voivodeship 1938 map [3]. The Śląsk Voiv. lies to the west (off this map).
[1] https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%C5%9Bwi%C4%99cim#Historia
[2] https://oswiecim.pl/dla-turysty/informacje/historia-miasta-oswiecim
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krak%C3%B3w_Voivodeship_Administrative_Map_1938.png
@boud @gimulnautti @georgetakei Now it is Poland. Before the Nazis invaded Poland it was also Poland. But when the KZ was built and used for mass-murder innocent people it was part of the 3rd Reich.
The Auschwitz concentration and extermination camps were built and operated during the Nazi occupation of the area: agreed.
TerryB@[email protected] @[email protected] Because that's where the German Nazis chose to put it!!!!
Rene Raggl 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 🇬🇱@georgetakei For everyone who believes this can't happen today, can't happen in their country or their community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTsVjnGNZ8
#Populism is a damn sllippery slope. Keep your eyes open, your thinking critical and don't stand idly by when bad things happen around you. #neverforget #TrumpRegime
The Wave 1981 Full Dutch subs
Mix Mistress Alice💄@georgetakei
This 'good people' theory is unverified. To me no one is fully bad or fully good.
What happened is that there are people who blindly follow orders, they are still around now and found everywhere. In fact, most of the world's population falls into this category. Some events from last year showed this very clearly.
What also happened is 'good people' denouncing their neighbours as 'bad people.' Turning a blind eye is also thinking that one will resolve how oppression works with 'good vs bad' pigeonholing; it would be much more effective to grasp what oppressors thinks and why; and then to clearly and openly demonstrate the bigotry in their beliefs and that the implication of their prejudices over everyone in society.
This 'good people' theory is unverified. To me no one is fully bad or fully good.
What happened is that there are people who blindly follow orders, they are still around now and found everywhere. In fact, most of the world's population falls into this category. Some events from last year showed this very clearly.
What also happened is 'good people' denouncing their neighbours as 'bad people.' Turning a blind eye is also thinking that one will resolve how oppression works with 'good vs bad' pigeonholing; it would be much more effective to grasp what oppressors thinks and why; and then to clearly and openly demonstrate the bigotry in their beliefs and that the implication of their prejudices over everyone in society.
Robin Barton@georgetakei I would point out the pressure of WW2 was part of the cause for the final solution
@Robo105 @georgetakei I wouldn’t point that out, Robin. I wouldn’t make any excuses for the Holocaust at all.
Holger Fiallo@georgetakei Not, all started with people not wanting to know, people not caring about others getting hurt,people pretending that those around who were disappearing did not matter in nazi Germany. Do not blame Trump, we knew who he is and what he wants to do. People put him in charge. Now most crying because is affecting them.
Grafelderen@georgetakei It didn't start with Trump either, like you claim.
MegatronicThronBanksPlus an economic collapse triggered by irresponsible fuckheads in the US.
Raffzahn@georgetakei Yes, but no. It wasn't "let it happen" and "a blind eye" - it was politicians that thought they could 'manage' the ones riding the propaganda wave. Exactly like today. Prussian government was ready to ban and dismantle the NSDAP, but Prussian politicians stopped it, so they could confront them and show how ridiculous their ideas are ...
We all know how it ended - and we're in the midst of repeating. Not just in the US.
~!#/usr/mittwerk 
@georgetakei and it happened again 
a fish named dog ✡️♾️@georgetakei it started with 2,300 years of consistent hate.
there's a reason it was jews. they didn't just toss it into a bowl and draw out names. why jews? it's a hell of a lot easier to convince people to hate jews than to hate, say, swedes. why roma? same reason.
centuries of persecution leave a mark on culture.
why immigrants? why queer people? why black people? because it's been done before. hate ain't original.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Exactly. The old hatred was a way in. Blame those people.
skedarwarrior@georgetakei Of course not, if they had started with gas chambers, they would have been crushed in an instant by their opposition.
@georgetakei It's *already* started. "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." I'm sure Hannah Arendt is screaming from her grave, since we appear to have paid no attention to her writings at all.
You know, since Trump is all about stopping Anti-Semitism (on paper), perhaps we should require all citizens to read "Night" by Elie Wiesel. Fuck...maybe we should force *Trump* to read it.
@georgetakei It started when the gullible got gulled
ZAC
Thomas Eisenbock@georgetakei It started with millions of germans enjoying antisemitism, suppression of minorities and violence. The NSDAP did not put this into the people. They harnessed and directed it towards the logical consequences war and genocide.
catraxx 
@georgetakei While i agree ... what do you suggest to do about it? You can't protest nazis away.
@georgetakei
Thanks/ Danke. 👍
Translation in German:
"Es hat nicht mit Gaskammern begonnen.
Es begann damit, dass eine Partei die Medien kontrollierte. Eine Partei, die die Botschaft kontrolliert. Eine Partei entscheidet, was Wahrheit ist. Eine Partei zensiert die Rede und kontrolliert die Opposition. Eine Partei, die Bürger in "uns" gegen "sie" aufteilt und ihre Anhänger dazu aufruft, "sie" zu beläsern.
Es begann, als gute Leute ein Auge zudrückten und es geschehen ließen."
Gje@georgetakei daran sollte jeder denken der irgendwo einen #sogAfD „Bürgerbus“ rumstehen sieht. Seid ihr Bürger wirklich „us“ oder vielleicht doch „them“?
Justbeep... and after it ended, most of those 'good' people claimed they
- just followed orders or
- did not know or
- not know 'enough' or
- heard rumors, but did not dare to help victims
We learned that "It wasn't me!" is not enough. 🙈🙉🙊
"Never again - as long as I can breathe!" is the only way - wherever you are ✋✋🏻✋🏼✋🏽✋🏾✋🏿
ImNotRealTakeYourMeds@georgetakei why aren't there impeachment proceedings over Trump violating court orders?
every dem who isn't filing for those proceedings are complicit.
@georgetakei I'm German. 40 years old with two young children. This breaks my heart and scares me to death at the same time.