JA WestenbergWhen people say 'politics is too divisive now,' what they really mean is 'I was more comfortable when certain groups suffered quietly.'
Warner Crocker@Daojoan Exactly
babble encat@Daojoan "Can't believe politics is dividing me from my victims" say bullies
kinnla@Daojoan that’s correct, and additionally current media boost polarization, more as in the past.
Yaktuary@Daojoan No, they mean resisting fascism is hard and they wish the libs would shut the hell up and roll over
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WilliamLMiller@Daojoan The people who complain about division are the people in power, the people who identify with the people in power, and the rest of us who lament that it has brought them to power. I do not know how anyone that has been working for unity, inclusion, and integration since the 90s can avoid lamenting the level of chaotic, destructive division that we have come to in this century. There is no way for us to not feel divided from this impoverishing mess. Would that unity and idealism returns.
Aethelstan@Daojoan I find it divisive because uneducated racists and sexists used to be ASHAMED and keep their mouths shut. But now they have a champion in the White House.
The Turtle@Daojoan i was more comfortable when the criminally stupid didn't show it off proudly in public and break shit.
I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥@Daojoan People who say that now are Nazi sympathizers.
Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle@Daojoan I like to think some people mean "why are there so many shamelessly extreme right-wing people now?"
Most of the time, however, it's as the op says
EndicottRoad59@Daojoan I think I was more comfortable when the two major political parties weren't at each other's throats.
Darwin Woodka@EndicottAuthor @Daojoan when was that?
Benaresh@darwinwoodka @EndicottAuthor @Daojoan
We have a clear timeline from the Watergate scandal of 1972 to the iran Contra affair 1981 over to Bush Jr. WMD's that didn't exists to todays Trump administration.
The Republicans wiped their asses with the Law since half a century now and now that this gets a bit of a pushback its very divisive.
Jargoggles@EndicottAuthor @Daojoan
When there is a fascist party, *someone* should be at their throats, but if you think the Democrats are doing something about that, you're delusional. They're bending over backwards to collaborate with the fascists.
When there is a fascist party, *someone* should be at their throats, but if you think the Democrats are doing something about that, you're delusional. They're bending over backwards to collaborate with the fascists.
AmgineIs this factual, or do I just want it to be factual?
I think 'big tent' parties really are kicking some parts of the population out, chasing them out because they are not 'pure' enough. I believe the process of voter suppression - happening in several members of the G7, not just one - is a method of division.
I do not think any of this is new. But it does seem, to me, to be more blatant and public, now.
aruga 🇮🇩@Daojoan I have to respectfully disagee.
I believe people feels divisive is the result of bad political communication that's too rigid.
For example, issues relating inclusivity.
In my country, people that don't want to be around other ethnics or religion are not demonized.
Instead we always trying to learn that an individual or groups might have cultural or historical background that lead to a situation, some even result of misinformation or simply a minimal interaction between groups.
@Daojoan
By recognizing this, we can choose a better message and solution to fix the problem instantly without anyone feeling "divisive" or "forced."
This also applied to issues like nature, disabilities awareness, gender equality, and other stuff.
My country is not perfect, but when it works, people are working together to solve the issues.
Also, I had one racist friend that's now accepting everyone with this approach :))
@techpengu @Daojoan besides maybe a few randoms nobody is demonising anyone who just happens not to hang out with people from different groups, that'd be silly.
Who ‘we’ are ‘demonising’ are people who ‘don't want to be around them’ and so ban, say, Muslims entering the area, or kick everyone who isn't white out the town at subset, or want trans people to never show their face in public. They not only don't interact with people different from them, they want to make sure they never have to.
Kerry Mitchell 🍁@Daojoan Yeah… but the more uncomfortable they got, the more right wing populist messaging appealed to them. There has to be some broader social goal that brings people together. Elevating “certain groups” doesn’t do that - at least not on its own. Certainly, it won’t counter MAGA’s promise of a return to the glorious past. Maybe it could have been “Medicare for all” or a green new deal, or whatever progressive idea could be ambitious enough to include and inspire everyone - even the white guys.
@Daojoan umm
Some of us mean "I liked it when I could disagree with someone on the right without worrying that they were going to try to murder my family"
I legitimately don't know what you're talking about
Elizabeth Sudduth@Amoshias @Daojoan When was that? We have always had lynchings, white nationalist violence, misogynist violence, and anti-LGBTQ violence? Or do you mean you liked it when you personally felt safe, even though the rest of us have never been safe from the right?
https://eji.org/reports/lynching-in-america/
https://eji.org/reports/lynching-in-america/
@hydropsyche @Daojoan you seem determined to lash out at someone - and lashing out at someone who agrees with you and is on your side is so much easier than lashing out at the people doing harm.
I will pass. I hope you learn better focus on the future.
@hydropsyche @Daojoan sigh. Have a great night.
Also, they were comfortable when everyone they knew agreed with them. This happens in a cult.
Knut 🏳️🌈 🇳🇴🧸@Daojoan @SpaceLifeForm Really enjoying my #proton stuff for my business. I won't think on the guranteed security _too_ hard, but I know MANY of the boys at #porkbun and they don't stamp their approval on nothin' unless it works as advertised. Got Proton Drive setup with rclone too!
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@Daojoan @SpaceLifeForm what they mean is they don't like it because typically oppressed minorities are fighting back.
Henry Cobb@Daojoan People also complained when Ike deported American citizens, but nobody listened.
./nippysaurus@Daojoan hard disagree.
CaveDave@Daojoan tbf, I also think that everything is more political now. What I mean by that is they were ALWAYS political to an extent but the average person barely thought about politics that much. Now we can't have a Wolfenstein game release without it being called political because it kills nazis, like ... it's been that way since 1992?
Also I think many series can't even be made today without controversies. Like Avatar (the animation) would be decried too political if released today
Erlend@Daojoan Pro tip:
If you want marginalised people (and those who care about them) less "noisy", make it so they're not marginalised.
If you want marginalised people (and those who care about them) less "noisy", make it so they're not marginalised.
Óscar Morales Vivó@Daojoan there’s also “the suffering has expanded to groups too close to me for me to easily ignore anymore”