Danielle Navarroanyway, here is some more of my insipid, bland, soulless, unethical, and meaningless garbage; saccharine, pleasant, and empty work, that i am reliably informed by bluesky has no artistic value and whose creation makes me a bad person. #rstats #rtistry
johnny anhedonic@djnavarro the flattening of the discussion around generative art as a whole as a result of ai has been pretty bleak to witness.
@thegarbagebird absolutely - one of the many, many things that AI slop has ruined is that people (even smart, educated people who have no excuse not to know better) now assume all generative art is unethical, wasteful, and garbage. it hasn't been great on mastodon either, but bluesky is much worse because it preserves the horrible features of twitter that encourage virality and context-collapse. I've been added to blocklists on bluesky because I post art there, and of course once you're on "the bad people lists" you are damned for all time. sharing art is the one thing i still love on social media, and bluesky has successfully killed that for me
Ulrike Hahn@djnavarro @thegarbagebird it’s been sad in the generative art debate to see virtually no awareness of the fact that it was a huge 20th century theme -across artistic media- to what extent mechanical and chance elements were compatible with the notion of ‘work of art’. The current debate is as if Ives, Cage, Boulez, Jackson Pollock, etc. never happened…
@djnavarro @thegarbagebird and I love this series, for what it’s worth!
@djnavarro @thegarbagebird one more comment on the series itself: even more so than is already the case with your other work it feels to me like putting the different pieces in the series together creates added value and a sum more than its parts. Do you exhibit these at all, or collect them into books or something?
keithzg@UlrikeHahn @dankwraith @djnavarro @thegarbagebird Yet another way in which capitalism tends to dissolve context and criticism, even peoples' reactions to its problems come with the past unconsidered because it's too hard for most people to see past the blinding light of the current burn.
@keithzg @UlrikeHahn @djnavarro
shit, it's @dankwraith! cheese it!
@djnavarro it's such a strange mistake, too. like deciding synthesizers are as bad as bitcoin because of the oscillators.
i wonder what their stance is on synths. that's generative art. hell, they've got algorithms and everything.
i might ask, see if that analogy breaks through.
Eric LawtonIMO, they're so wrong on every count that I find the exact opposite, except for "saccharine" and "pleasant".
I don't think it's either pleasant or unpleasant but more of a disquieting tension between the heart and the sharp, spiky lines.
"Saccharine" just seems like a failure on their part to see anything.
David Mitchell 
This is lovely, very expressive.
Jacquie@djnavarro i do not think they know what those words mean...!
Metamere@djnavarro
PUNK. ROCK.
PUNK. ROCK.
J3RN 
@djnavarro Oh wow, I like this image a lot! It reminds me of sempervivium plants with the red tipped leaves.
Izzy Grosof@djnavarro Hey Danielle, I've also enjoyed making non-LLM generative art, and I love to see someone else making art in this way! Your pieces are lovely and evocative!
{ id: d2718, ok: 🇵🇸🌈🏳️⚧️🇺🇦 }@djnavarro As someone who has dabbled in generative art (that is, writing programs to produce images, not prompting some Enterprise Autocomplete to do it for me), these are great.
Bsky can eat broken glass. Keep sharing your stuff here; we have taste*, understand nuance, and _love_ it.
*Relatively, at least.