DelegateVoidMar 26
#opensource projects adopting #discord as their go-to platform for communication is such a terrible trend.
You'd expect more from developers, you'd expect they understand what's wrong with these centralized services, which are in fact not accessible for a very large number of people, and that they, instead would embrace open/distributed solutions. But I guess #discord is great for control freaks with all the rules that one can configure just for people to be able to hello! (I miss #irc)
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Would be great if using #discord for #opensource projects would be considered a violation of open source principles (never gonna happen I know).

Some offenders:

- #godot
- #mudblazor
- #nanoframework
- #appflowy
- #libretro
- #ffmpeg_wasm
- #synocommunity
- #linuxserverio
- #heroicgamelauncher
- etc...

And yes some of these do offer alternatives but they are mostly abandoned.

And I get you might be happy with #discord (and that's fine too), but I'm not.

Mar 26 at 2:34amWeb
Show threadjoseMar 26
@delegatevoid godot uses rocket chat for contributors. I think discord is just to appeal the masses that already have the thing, like reddit and other shithole platforms. I mean, they do have official Lemmy and Mastodon accounts, but objectively there are fewer persons to reach over here, you kinda cannot grow your community from this platforms, you need to follow the cattle to steal some cows.
Show threadDelegateVoidMar 26

@jose I know godot is on rocket.chat.
Back in the days when I was helping track down a lot of issues with the C# implementation that's what I was using and it's still the only way I can actually get any support. (Discord doesn't work).

Not expecting anyone to use Mastodon (I just happens to work here, for now) but there's nothing wrong with IRC either
(or distributed instances of rocket.chat).

Problem is that godot rocket.chat is not for consumers/support.

Show threadjoseMar 26
@delegatevoid how many people do you personally know that use IRC or Rocket Chat? My point is that those are already ghost towns, if you want to reach a wide audience you need to be where people is.
Show threadDelegateVoidMar 26
@jose I don't live in a region where things like Discord and many other centralized services are accessible, so we resort to alternatives, including irc. I'm not saying we should go back to irc but we should at least try and push towards decentralized solutions. Perhaps if I was living in the USA or Europe (to some extend) I wouldn't care about this either. But there are millions of people who cannot access discord and as such, can get no support.
Show threadjoseMar 26
@delegatevoid I live pretty far away from those places, I'm not even in that hemisphere. Your government blocks specifically discord? Or is more a cultural thing? I'm not arguing here, bit I want to understand your situation, as it seems weird to me.
Show threadDelegateVoidMar 26
@jose it specifically blocks services that either enable people to communicate outside the control of those in charge and services for which local alternatives exist. I can tell you that even docker is blocked.
So we're talking millions of capable developers cut out of the loop. And the move to centralized services has only made it easier for those in charge to enforce more control. You can ask but I have to answer carefully
Show threadDelegateVoidMar 26
@jose but things like e-mail (imap/smtp) keep working because it's not economically feasible to block them.
So mailing lists or chatting via delta are valid solutions here. (There are of course other means to get around this, but not for the majority of people)