Matt Gemmell 🏴This is the most helpfully packaged box of screws I've ever seen, by a large margin. I just wanted to take a moment to appreciate whomever was responsible for such a triumph of utility and empathy.
Scott@mattgemmell drill bit sizes. So simple, yet so elusive.
mrsp@mattgemmell Concur. Love it.
Iain Govan@mattgemmell Excellent - what brand is that? I’ve found Fischer, Spax, and German brands in general to be pretty good at providing clear technical data for fixings.
@iaingovan Fasteners and Fixings, sub-brand of ForgeFix.
@mattgemmell Just twigged I have a box of F&F screws in the garage - just checked and there’s none of this useful stuff on the box - hopefully this is the new way!
Quinn “The Eskimo!”@mattgemmell Having spent a lot of time researching screws recently, gotta say I love it!
dxzdbDo you have those drills?
Still can't believe they get away with this with the C E mark.
https://www.hqts.com/differences-between-ce-conformite-europeenne-and-ce-china-export/
Frank Heijkamp@dxzdb @mattgemmell On this package it is clearly the genuine CE mark and not the gin you wine version from the Peoples Republic.
nicolas ⁂@dxzdb Just for heads-up as far as I know, the “China Export” thing is a hoax: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22
Tor Lillqvist@dxzdb @mattgemmell That "China Export" thing is a myth. See for example Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22 or just google for "china export" "myth". Like https://www.glazingvision.co.uk/blog/top-questions-on-ce-marking/ .
Max Seelemann@mattgemmell the German translation is funny tho 😅
@macguru17 @mattgemmell As usual German wins with the longest word: Mehrzweckschaube.
Although in Netherlandisch we always try our best to defeat the German language with long stringed together words.
Although in Netherlandisch we always try our best to defeat the German language with long stringed together words.
mirabilos@macguru17 @alterelefant @mattgemmell kloksnelheid 😹 what you do win is you get us unable to continue the fight due to breaking out in laughter
Phi Φ
Joshua A.C. Newman@mattgemmell Wow, it’s fantastic! Who manufactures/packages like this?
@mattgemmell Someone over there is really on the ball.
Kyle Davis@mattgemmell it’s beautiful.
@linux_mclinuxface Someone has walked through the valley of the shadow of the DIY/hardware shop in late afternoon, and felt the desperation of not having measured before getting into the car.
George Baily@mattgemmell Good lord, actually-good #design feels like something from a distant civilisation
dogzilla@georgebaily @mattgemmell Right? Something that actually helps instead of being monomaniacally focused on extracting every penny possible from you? Feels like a different world.
doppelfish ☑️@mattgemmell it really lists all useful knowledge one could ask for. You don't even have to wonder whether it's Phillips or Pozi. 👍
Hedgewizard 🐈So seldom *anyone* thinks about the experience of reading what they've written. I had a prescription with an unusual dose on it the other day where the prescriber had added "yes, really - i spoke to a specialist" - saved me twenty minutes chasing them
Thomas Beagle@mattgemmell I love built-in documentation. #ExTechWriter
CharlieG@mattgemmell Wow. What company did that come from?
Helen Clayton@mattgemmell Agree 👏 I bought these for myself! I shall be using some tomorrow in fact.
Ross of Ottawa@mattgemmell Very nice.
Will Dormann
Andrew Zonenberg@mattgemmell /me looks over at Home Depot box with a Phillips head nail in it.
Sorry I don't have the pic handy but it's a real thing I purchased. Box of a hundred or so screws and one had somehow bypassed the thread forming operation so it was just a smooth cylinder of galvanized steel with a Phillips head on one end.
Andrew Drake@azonenberg @mattgemmell that's some Found Art if I've ever heard of it!
Cadbury MooseThat's the one you need a "Birmingham screwdriver" for. 3:O)>
Max@mattgemmell well done!
Vic 🇪🇺@mattgemmell whoa, this is bloody fantastic.
Charlie Phillips/Dolphinchaz@mattgemmell Now THAT is how you do packaging 👏👏👏 Bravo 👌
Jonathan HendryThat is fantastic.
groxx@mattgemmell good lord that's good. consider me impressed and interested in throwing money at them next time I need screws.
Juggling With EggsThis is indeed beautiful and useful packaging for screws…I take it from the details provided these are only available to those in the EU, UK and Canada.
goedelchen@JugglingWithEggs @mattgemmell
BS EN stands for British Standards European Norm (so it's a European norm adopted by British Standards)
As CE is no longer relevant for the UK, the marking UKCA (United Kingdom Conformity Assessed) was introduced. No Canada, here.
zl2todThat's good, but why are they not square drive?
the hatter@zl2tod @mattgemmell Because we're not canada.
Carol Brownson@mattgemmell
Brilliant! (Also the grammar 🥳)
Brilliant! (Also the grammar 🥳)
Stefan Hansen@mattgemmell @siracusa As a graphic designer who does occasional package design, I can truly appreciate this. Nice!
Darryl Ramm99% of the way there, their seeming fear of stating "Pozidriv compatible" is uh frustrating. Being clear about that would help folks looking to see if it's Pozidriv and not being sure about the" PZ2", "Pozi", star marking etc.
@mattgemmell @darryl_ramm trademark being a PITA?
A trademark does not prevent proper careful reference to it. And careful/proper use would only improve clarity here.
@mirabilos @mattgemmell @darryl_ramm
The bits (and complete drivers) tend to be marked with the head type they engage. (Though the one I've just picked up has a cross in a circle and No.4 x 200mm - thank you, Draper!)
The great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.
(Slotted, Phillips, Pozidriv, Robertson, hex, Torx... and then all the "security" variants like Tri-Wing. After that you get to choose the head shape, length, and gauge!)
NKT@darryl_ramm @mattgemmell If you look at your screwdriver bits, you'll find that they are literally marked with PZ2 if they are PZ2. If they say PZ1? They're smaller PZ (pozidrive), and if they say PZ3 they are larger pozidrive. Likewise nearly all driver bits. PH is Phillips, TX is Torx, there's dozens if not hundreds of them, all 2 letters to fit on the bit.
No shit Mr obvious? Just like the photo?
Many Pozidriv screwdrivers are not labelled like that. And if somebody is looking for "Pozidriv screws" would having them labeled "Pozidriv driver compatible" or similar help or hurt?
Pozidriv the full proper trademark name. Not Pozi are you just fucking stupid?
Doc Impossible@mattgemmell Mmmmmm, I love quality technical writing.
Not A Dropbear@mattgemmell The chef’s kiss is that they’ve included a free 90mm ruler.
marble 弹珠@mattgemmell
> Einzelfaden
> Einzelfaden
rag. Gustavino BevilacquaWonderful!
But some people¹ would also need a ↻ to remember in which direction they have to turn the screw.
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¹ I guess people using only digital clocks.
I'm used to unskilled helpers.
@GustavinoBevilacqua @mattgemmell Those sound dangerous.
filobus@GustavinoBevilacqua @mattgemmell on northern emisphere you turn in that direction, in southern in the reverse (just joking)
Stuart Celarier ❌👑@GustavinoBevilacqua @mattgemmell Ask any roadie or stagehand: lefty loosely, right tighty.