Holy shit. I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say they’re trying to kill us all.

“The Environmental Protection Agency plans to eliminate its scientific research arm, firing as many as 1,155 chemists, biologists, toxicologists and other scientists”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/17/climate/trump-eliminates-epa-science.html?unlocked_article_code=1.404.aeUC.tdm1nbDIVEL2&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Trump Administration Aims to Eliminate E.P.A.’s Scientific Research Arm

More than 1,000 chemists, biologists and other scientists could be laid off under a plan to dismantle the Office of Research and Development.

The New York Times
@davidho C'mon, silly, why should the agency in charge of protecting the environment need people who know anything about science? 😱
@davidho Bringing America back to the 16th century. Is it great again now?
@elronxenu @davidho Well when the witch burnings and drownings start, you know the first four witches...
Edit, scratch 4. It's the first couple of hundred that are obvious.
@davidho How many times a day can I say WTF?
@davidho The jackboots are marching destroying everything in their path

@davidho well the environment hasn't killed Trump yet, therefore it won't, so that's a lot of money wasted. Simple. Also better to kill the environment before it kills you.

If the environment kills somebody else, well then that somebody should have voted harder.

@tadnaff @davidho I'm waiting on a Starlink falling through the atmosphere to do the funniest thing...

@tadnaff
That'd be their own fault for not having a bigger gun to defend themselves.

...I've been saying for ages that power corrupts, that the presence of tools to install a fascist regime (including lack of strong privacy) means that sooner or later that's the way it will go, but I guess that was just some conspiracy theory...

...oh, look who has the biggest and baddest military in the world. Wonder what they'll do with that? Noo, they'd never, wouldn't they?
@davidho

@davidho Why would they care? Heading to Mars.

They'll get there before it all burns down.

You think they'll leave a contingent of suckers or just blow us all up with the nukes? Can't just leave us here with them...

Idiots should be listening to Tyson a bit more. Should be buying up/taking over elevated land and building impenetrable fortresses and also taking massive steps to curb it all. But nope...off to redder planes of dust.

@crazyeddie @davidho you think so? You did obviously not hear about those researchers on the South Pole sending out an alarm because they are afraid one of them will harm or even kill them. It's quite hard to live in confined spaces for longer periods of time... Perhaps even more so if you're South African... It's really long way to Mars, and no chances to return if your shipmates turn against you.
@crazyeddie @davidho In my mind’s eye, I see the spaceship engineer back on Earth, lovingly cuddling the vital part that the spaceship needs to enter Mars orbit.
@davidho you're not. It's Thiel's explicit, stated goal.
@davidho other catastrophes to happen, mainly in the poorest habitats first then everywhere

@davidho

Dismantling EPA research departments – that's a surprising strategy for going back to pre-industrial conditions...

@davidho

What could possibly go wrong?

Asking for a friend.

@davidho But why dont you realize the shareholder value created hy this? Why wont someone think of the shareholders?
@davidho https://mastodon.world/@davidho/114181586370348790
Yup. The US 'leaders' only eat McDonalds prepared from imported ingredients, which were grown backed by science. Who cares about the rest of the US people?
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Holy shit. I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say they’re trying to kill us all. “The Environmental Protection Agency plans to eliminate its scientific research arm, firing as many as 1,155 chemists, biologists, toxicologists and other scientists” https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/17/climate/trump-eliminates-epa-science.html?unlocked_article_code=1.404.aeUC.tdm1nbDIVEL2&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Mastodon
@davidho Fascism hates a lot of things, science is one of them.
@daviToday is he day Trump sells Ukrain to Putin for 30 coins of [email protected]

@davidho

I think they believe they can shape physical reality by controlling how it is reported.

I'm not joking, I think they literally believe that reality is created by being reported a certain way:

"You're in what we call the reality-based community ... That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

Reality-based community - Wikipedia

@davidho

...obviously this idea is nuts, and they will find out sooner or later. The question is how much damage they do in the meantime, most of which will be suffered by innocent bystanders.

That phrase in "Chernobyl" summed it up best, about lies causing a debt to the truth that has to be repaid.

@FediThing @davidho they've completely misunderstood the messages of The End of History and Baudrillard's The Gulf War Did Not Happen.
@FediThing @davidho The concept comes straight to them from Goebbels, and they're moving faster this time.

@pait @davidho

I hope they look up what happened to Goebbels.

@FediThing @davidho I fear that if we don't stop them quickly it will come to violence.

Because I know that innocents will suffer more than the guilty.

Also, they are psychopaths - they don't care.

@FediThing @davidho

This is conservatism at its very core; we are going to keep applying the failed solutions of the past despite humanity's understanding of reality moving forward without us, we will do this until we are so undeniably desynced from reality that we need fascism to enforce our worldview on others

That's really all conservatism is, a commitment to solutions that have failed. It's not a balance on a political spectrum, it's an excuse not to change or think that becomes malignant

@davidho not trying to kill you. Just don't care whether you live or die. Yes, they think they are off to Mars. The film Elysium is the model they are working to.

@AndyDeardentsa @davidho

Heard that elsewhere. If it's true then they are nuts. Earth is the best planet by far

@davidho migrating to Europe, anyone?
How Big Money in Politics Blocked U.S. Action on Climate Change

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse believes the 2010 Supreme Court decision unleashing corporate money into politics derailed any chance of U.S. climate legislation. In a Yale Environment 360 interview, he talks about how fossil-fuel interests have intimidated Republicans from tackling the issue.

Yale e360

@davidho

Anyone got any stock recommendations to profit from this?

@davidho

I didn't believe I'd say this one day, but I'm really happy that I don't live in the US.

@TobiWanKenobi @davidho
As a Canadian, a nation under attack by the American fascist regime, I share that sentiment.

@davidho

Republican billionaires read a science fiction novel and interpret it as a "How To" manual.

Margaret Atwood: women as slaves, genocide, corporate feudalism, and ecocide
Handmaid's Tale
Oryx & Crake series

William Gibson:
"The Peripheral" and the poly-crises Jackpot

@davidho this being some kind of "unaliving cult" would be the only explanation that would make any sense at this point.
@davidho They just want rich capitalists to be able to make more money. The fact that it will cost human lives doesn't cross their minds.
@davidho the rest of the democratic world should start their own operation paperclip I think, the expertise of these scientists should not go to waste.
@davidho Trump thinks he's the savior of the American working class, but his entire base are...white trash. He's giving people a free ticket to be pigs. Since he's taken office, I am forever picking garbage off the ground. Texas has almost a garbage dump both environmentally and socially. MAGAts running around being rude and throwing their Big Gulp cups on the ground.

@davidho

There needs to be a general strike across all sectors. Shawn Fain and his cohorts are planning one for 2028, but at this pace that might be too late.

@davidho next up, the Cuyahoga river catches on fire again.
@davidho I had this same thought first when NIH programs got axed. Get rid of the old/poor/sick and that's less money spent.
@davidho They hate the USA and want to destroy her. Once the government collapses, global chaos will follow. They want to #KickStartArmageddon and #JesusReturns I can see grandma once again! Glory! #EndTimes #PeteHegseth #MikeHuckabee
@davidho No money in saving the planet, now is there?!
@davidho Perhaps the Trump gang just needs help in understanding how pollution can be harmful. Some samples of PFAs, etc. on their properties, perhaps.
@davidho Yes, the killing by cancelling and firing (already begun) is a feature not a bug. Reducing the "surplus" population is a goal.