Niklas Rosenqvist
PaulAn update worth reading:
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/
Richard Littauer@plwt This doesn't give much more clarity. It doesn't add back in the text they removed.
"there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners"
This is incredibly vague.
Alexandre B A Villares 🐍
Preston Maness ☭@plwt >TL;DR Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data”), and we don’t buy data about you. We changed our language because some jurisdictions define “sell” more broadly than most people would usually understand that word. Firefox has built-in privacy and security features, plus options that let you fine-tune your data settings.
False. That is exactly how most people think of "selling data."
aburka 🫣
Matt Palmer@plwt I'd love to know what they think the average punter thinks the verb "to sell" means, because the definition they decry as being overly broad is exactly what I think "sell your personal data" means.
Fish Id Wardrobe
Djembro, RO, supports 🇺🇦🇬🇪
Michael K Johnson@plwt I don't understand how they thought that these clarifications about purpose weren't going to be absolutely necessary in the first instance.
It still feels unfortunate to just delete the promise about not selling data. They must have explicitly chosen not to instead change the wording and articulate (rightly or wrongly) that they are adapting to a changing legal landscape regarding wording, rather than changing their intent.
Ian Wagner
Thibaultmol 🌈@plwt even if this blog posts rectified anything.....
It should have been obvious from the get-go that these changes would have caused community controversy.
If these changes were read by anyone at Firefox, they would have known that it would be scrutinized.
Either mozilla thinks we're too stupid to have noticed these things.
Or mozilla's too stupid to imagine this wouldn't have caused any issues
Account: Computers@plwt I can't believe they think the screencapped text excuses them. The quote is not some incomprehensible legalese, it is absolutely on point about selling the data through various means.
@plwt
> TL;DR Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data”),
hahahahahaha no.
imdat celeste 
[witchzard]@plwt @drakulix "[…] In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar…" - Firefox, or the Mozilla Foundation, was never meant to be "financially viable" as in "business", but women assholes (aka CEOs) decided that that wasn't good enough.
Fuck them!