fredsharples
Mark Wyner Won’t Comply 
Unless you DO NOT COMPLY IN ADVANCE. We must fight now and we must fight hard. Digging out of this hole will cost us a lot more than doing the work early.
The article:
https://jmsmith.substack.com/p/you-cant-peacefully-vote-your-way
Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸
Johns@markwyner And you need to fight it out to be over.
Because, if like Spain, it ends because the dictator dies, the followers and ideas remain and even after 40 years of democracy they'll still be there
Because, if like Spain, it ends because the dictator dies, the followers and ideas remain and even after 40 years of democracy they'll still be there
H4Heights 🇪🇺🇵🇸🇺🇦🇨🇦@markwyner It takes war and revolution to kill fascists.
LukefromDC@H4Heights @markwyner Yet people sold their battle gear and stopped training after J6/2021 thinking it was over.
Estarriol, Terrorist DragonThe Spanish Civil War was started by the fascists, because they lost the democratic election, not because they won it, you are thinking of portugal, germany, italy, USA.
enoch_exe_inc@markwyner You need armed resistance, something the Democrats (and hence the vast majority of liberals) will never do because of decades of “violence is never the answer” propaganda. Listen, and listen well: pacifism will only ever work if the other side reckons that violence will be more trouble than it’s worth. They will just shoot unarmed, peaceful protesters if they think you won’t fight back. Hence the need for armed resistance.
David Mitchell 
While there is generally lots of awareness here in these online communities, it seems to me that (broadly speaking) Americans are mostly only just waking up to the idea that maybe something is going on, and are taking a wait-and-see approach to find out if their ‘alarmist’ neighbours are actually right. And of course by the time it’s clear to them, the turning point will be far in the rearview mirror, and so they’ll shrug and say, “ what can we do now?”
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Canada is likewise on the path, with so many saying “I’m not sure if these are really fascists, we’ve had ‘good’ conservatives before and I’m tired of the
Libs, let’s wait and see what happens” So many ‘good’ people ready to put their heads down and wait to find out, not processing how much pain the finding out is going to take, and how long we’ll all be stuck in that hole.
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RE 🇨🇦In the past I believed there were good conservatives. Now, I just think their principles had never been tested. They have been, and they've failed.
I thought for sure they'd recognize what is happening in the US for what it is, and put their partisan and ideological biases aside.
Nope. Seems they've just dug in their heels for 'their' guy.
@DavidM_yeg @markwyner I used to consider myself right-of-centre by Canadian standards. Not anymore.
The Canadian right, by and large, doesn't have the guts or the sense to stand up for democracy and stand up to Nazism.
I want no part of it.
I think we have had ‘good’ conservatives, but it has been decades since we had them, and they were ‘good’ only in the sense that they recognized limits to their action on the authoritarian/fascist axis, not because I agree with their goals and priorities.
But in this century, Canada’s conservatives have been actively disassembling those limits, and are now gleefully on an accelerating downhill path to fascism without brakes if we let them take the wheel.
@DavidM_yeg @markwyner In Canada, conservatives, as the PCs, were responsible for both free trade and GST, both of which are considered good things overall.
But I don't think modern conservatism has much of anything good to offer, and not enough to tip their balance close enough to 'good', IMO.
I might still be 'right wing', in some vague sense, but I'll only be voting for left wing parties for the foreseeable future.
To be clear, I have never supported the policies of conservatives in Canada, and the ‘good’ is in quotes for that reason. Remarkable that what makes a ‘good’ conservative is that they aren’t overly fascist: a pretty low bar for them to fail to meet… which they currently are.
bonk@markwyner and, well, the fascists won the spanish civil war... and their rule only ended when Franco died, decades later
JIN_SHIDOU@markwyner spain still a fascist state at the moment
Víctor Maldonado 🍉☘️🕊️@JIN_SHIDOU @markwyner if that's your concept of a fascist country, I wonder what you think of US and Russia...
@vmaldosan @markwyner I hope you can imagine ;-)
Peter Riley