You nailed it @AuthorJMac ! 🖖

Edit : Original (and complete) post on March 29, 2024

« You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-AI is? Wrong direction.
I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. »

Cf. https://indiepocalypse.social/@AuthorJMac/112178826967890119

#AI #IA #LLM

Joanna Maciejewska (@AuthorJMac@indiepocalypse.social)

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-AI is? Wrong direction. I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes.

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@danslerush @AuthorJMac Thank you, I was searching the source of this quote !

@CedricLevasseur @danslerush @AuthorJMac

Maybe this version has more punch

Joanna Maciejewska says...

⭕EDITED I want #AI to do my laundry and dishes so I can do my art and my writing, not for AI to do art and writing and be lucky to get laundry and dishwasher jobs at AI wages.

@CedricLevasseur @danslerush @AuthorJMac I have one useful application for AI that is also my main use case:

1. I have a Github issue with 100'ish comments with some relevant, some random nagging or generally irrelevant shit, links and shit.
2. I ask AI to aggregate the data, not add or remove new information but just give me report what is there so that I don't have to bother scrolling all the comments.

I don't get much of AI creating anything "new" for me because I do actually new stuff. It costs me time because even if AI generates me something I would need to go it through and I end up dissapointing result that I need to rewrite myself.

I've also empirically tested these theories because I don't believe in belief systems.

E.g. a platform bug makes it propose solutions that don't work because there's too many parameters that are not the source code per se like the environment it runs, and how people might want it to fly. If I give more feedback to the AI, it always ends up eventually proposing the same dysfunctional solution I started with.

But my first example: it s actually useful. I also know a startup that did a system for customer service, which does not replace it but instead quickly provides context information for the call service person, which makes the work less stressful and customers get highest possible result. Nobody likes to talk AI on phone.

Whenever there is a new tech it will take all our jobs but eventually it settles and integrates. E.g. if AI really did that it would start feeding back itself with its own data because everything would be generated by AI. Even some studies have started to shown evidence that this can cause a feedback alzheimer kind of condition for the LLM.

I did my homework on this. Thus, not worried.

:-)
@CedricLevasseur @AuthorJMac @danslerush E.g. software engineering: at most 10% is about the source code. Rest is human interaction and expectations, even in something as low-level as drivers and stuff like that.

I've always said that I would be as effective in statistics with Windows Notepad doing Linux drivers as I am on Linux system with vim even tho that will decrease my code productivity by factors. You pick the tools you like, the productivity and creativity are not affected. I personally love slow.
@jarkko @danslerush @AuthorJMac
Then you'd better progressing in human interaction.
Because you use-case of "one useful" application in IA is totally irrelevant.
@CedricLevasseur @AuthorJMac @danslerush i use ai so rarely even in the use case i described that i even dont know what IA is. No interest on topic to ”do the research” either. I thought it was a typo

@jarkko It is a typo. It's because I'm French and in French IA means AI.
You understand that If i congratulate someone for an argument against AI, I'm not happy that somebody come and says : Hey for me it's working.

- I hate AI, it destroys my Job
- You : Hi, AI resumes me issues that i didn't read into a list. That's great.

@CedricLevasseur I dont believe it does because most of time is figuring out what not how. It’s over rated
@CedricLevasseur i personally would never hire AI to make software. It’s based on facts and over 20 decades of experience in this business. It would destroy creative distruption and would not bring edge in competition. I also read books only written by humans because im a human. AI is a cost. Person is an investment.
@CedricLevasseur believe it or not: im on your side in this story even if you disliked me because of what i said 🙂 that is all i care
@CedricLevasseur @danslerush If it's any help, it's been posted across some of my socials (here on Mastodon but also X, BlueSky, and Threads) on March 29, 2024. It went viral back then, and then the magazine took half of it and reprinted it of which I learned from this image going viral. :) Apparently, it's still making its rounds.
@AuthorJMac Oh thank you for the context and the details ! So yes, let's say it touches on a common sense that we are very many to share when we are willingly or forcefully subjected to the marketing lobotomy of "AI" 😅 @CedricLevasseur

@danslerush @CedricLevasseur Love the "marketing lobotomy of AI" expression.

I know that AI has some uses, probably in science and data analysis.
But I see no reason why it should be shoved down my throat everywhere I turn. I always say I'm waiting for cereal producers to implement AI in their products. 😉

@AuthorJMac @danslerush
I wanted to quote you in a little poster, I could hold up in future protests. I needed the exact quote, so that I could translate in French. I'm happy to have found this post in my timeline.
Thank you for this beautiful argument.
@CedricLevasseur @danslerush Awww, thank you.
I suppose I should keep the links to the originals across the platforms handy, because no one in their right mind will scroll almost a year back through my profile (especially that the magazine doesn't provide the date or any reference).
I'm surprised you've found me, and here (love Mastodon, but it's delightfully niche) of all places :)
Joanna Maciejewska (@AuthorJMac@indiepocalypse.social)

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-AI is? Wrong direction. I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes.

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@danslerush @CedricLevasseur Thanks for making the effort!
(My notifications are getting busy, so I didn't have time myself.)
I'm definitely saving the link now, so that I can have it handy as well.
@AuthorJMac You're welcome, and sorry about this new "notifications session" 😳 @CedricLevasseur
@danslerush @CedricLevasseur No worries. I truly appreciate the tagging, especially that it takes an effort to look for the author.
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@fazalmajid @danslerush Yup.
But uncreative people apparently thought it was necessary...

@danslerush @AuthorJMac

come from Gemini:

"While AI is making rapid progress in many areas, there are still significant challenges to overcome. Tasks that seem simple to humans, like laundry and dishes, can be surprisingly difficult for AI due to the complexities of physical manipulation and unstructured environments. Addressing the real problems of generalization, bias, explainability, creativity, and ethics will be crucial for the future of AI and AIGC."

@longLiveCarryOn @danslerush I appreciate you taking time to respond, but I care little about what complex predictive text machine has to say.
I'm also tired of people not taking time to understand what I was really saying. Taking text literally is the lowest level of reading comprehension...
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@vsharma2430 @danslerush There's a difference between "AI washing machine" (something that we actively avoided the last time husband and I shopped for a washing machine) and "AI doing laundry".
If you don't know the difference, I recommend doing more chores around the house. 😉
@danslerush @AuthorJMac
Pretty high ask - do the dishes.
@OptimisticMoron @danslerush I'll be happy to do the dishes myself if the AI fucks off creative endeavors. ;)
@danslerush @AuthorJMac I use this quote all the time when I'm facilitating tech workshops!
@danslerush @AuthorJMac
Zach Wernersmith was recently posting about how AI that does laundry and puts away dishes does exist, it's just wickedly expensive (while the ones "everyone's talking about" are "free")
Zach Weinersmith (@zachweinersmith.bsky.social)

Suppose you could buy a laundry folding bot for $1k. It's the size of a typical dryer. You dump in fresh laundry, it pops it out sorted and folded in a hamper. How fast would it have to go per item to be worth it for you?

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@danslerush yeah they really should invent machines that wash clothes or dishes, I’m sure people would buy those
@lain @danslerush what matters are machines that can automatically put dirty clothes into the washing machine, turn it on, take them into the dryer, and then put dried clothes into their place. etc.

same goes for dishwasher, it still takes me a lot of energy to put used dishes into it.
@danslerush @AuthorJMac and i don't want "ai" to do shit
@ngn @danslerush That would definitely be ideal.
Yesterday, I had another real life example how "useful" "AI" is, and I've had enough for a lifetime. Or twenty.
@danslerush @AuthorJMac This is EXACTLY what I've been saying. How fucking backwards has the AI industry got it right now...
@danslerush @AuthorJMac A.I. will never do my writing for me.
@danslerush @AuthorJMac When my AI enhanced Roomba can move the furniture, open doors, vacuum under the heat registers, and empty itself, then I will believe it worthy for consideration. Until then, it’s just a dumb robot vacuum that can’t even push aside a dining chair to suck up the crumbs from under the table.
@danslerush @AuthorJMac In fact, this drawing predates it, since it was made the 18 of Janury 2023 or sooner, according to my metadatas.