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The U.S. government questioning Native Americans' birthright citizenship isn’t just a bureaucratic issue—it’s a fundamental attack on Indigenous sovereignty. Native people are dual citizens: members of our sovereign nations first and foremost, with U.S. citizenship imposed on us in 1924 to erode that sovereignty. Now, the state is threatening to claw back even this imposed recognition, undermining treaty obligations and the legal frameworks that acknowledge our nations’ existence.

This is settler colonialism in action—using laws to erase and control. We’ve always existed as independent peoples, long before the U.S. imagined itself into being, and we’ll continue to exist regardless of what the settler state decides. This fight isn’t about fitting into their system; it’s about defending our right to govern ourselves on our terms.

https://www.salon.com/2025/01/23/excluding-indians-admin-questions-native-americans-birthright-citizenship-in/

#LandBack #IndigenousSovereignty

"Excluding Indians": Trump admin questions Native Americans' birthright citizenship in court

The Trump admin is leaning on a pre-14th Amendment law in its fight to redefine birthright citizenship.

Salon.com
Jan 24, 2025 at 1:29pmWeb
Show threademsennJan 27, 2025
I got a lot more notifications on this than I'm used to, including a lot of replies, but that's more than I can deal with so I'm not going to read that, sorry!
Show threadStoneface VimesJan 24, 2025
@emsenn well it wouldn't exactly be the first time the US government had renéged on a treaty with native Americans would it.
Show threadsamiamsamJan 24, 2025

@emsenn

this is fucking disgusting

Show threadLukefromDCJan 24, 2025
@emsenn It's white supremacists who should be deported. Round them up starting wirh Trump and every ICE agent. Stuff them in ships and send them back to Europe. Their ancestors came here as armed invaders not peaceful migrants.
Show threadPortabelloBelle🚚🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️Jan 24, 2025
@LukefromDC @emsenn
We don't want them, sorry (not sorry.)
Show threadLukefromDCJan 24, 2025
@ArabellaLovejoy @emsenn Again, that's a solvable problem. We could always send the white supremacists to Hell instead.
Show threadPortabelloBelle🚚🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️Jan 24, 2025
@LukefromDC @emsenn only as long as it's a one way ticket
Show threadBill ZaumenJan 24, 2025
@LukefromDC @ArabellaLovejoy @emsenn Definitely do not send white supremacists to Hell: send them to Venus instead. The surface of Venus is hotter than Hell.
(the Biblical Lake of Fire is brimstone - molten sulfur - and the boiling point of sulfur is 717.8 K, whereas the surface temperature of Venus is 737 K.)
Show threadFubaroqueJan 24, 2025
@LukefromDC @emsenn Sorry, not interested. Please take care of your own garbage. 😘
Show threadxs4me2Jan 24, 2025

@LukefromDC @emsenn

We don't want them here...

Show threadLionelfuscoJan 26, 2025
@LukefromDC n’exagérons pas non plus
Show threadleon 🏳️‍🌈 🇵🇱Jan 24, 2025
@emsenn stripping native americans of the citizenship for the land they've cultivated for centuries is just a level of insanity i didnt think we would ever achieve
Show threadauthor_is_ShrikeTron🔠💉x7Jan 25, 2025

@kameleonnn @emsenn Well, it's no different than what's going on in Gaza, West Bank, etc.

Colonial Imperialism is back again. 🙃

Show threadleon 🏳️‍🌈 🇵🇱Jan 25, 2025
@ShrikeTron @emsenn its awful. we just just keep saying we've learned from history and then keep repeating it.
Show threadLstn2urmama 🇨🇦Jan 24, 2025
@emsenn Indigenous persons have MORE rights than those of other cultures ...THEY are sovereign...
Show threadAlexa FontanillaJan 24, 2025

@Lstn2urmama
#PostOfTheWeek (season 2):
In the Trump administration’s arguments defending his order to suspend birthright citizenship, the Justice Department called into question the citizenship of Native Americans born in the United States under the 14th Amendment, citing 19th-century law that excluded Native Americans from birthright citizenship.

In a case on Trump's birthright citizenship executive order coming out of Washington, Justice Department attorneys quote the 14th Amendment.

Show threadLstn2urmama 🇨🇦Jan 24, 2025
@AlexaFontanilla2024 NO different than what was already read ...
Show threadSteve HerseyJan 24, 2025
@emsenn
This is the kind of deliberate performative cruelty we get when we don't turn out to vote against fascists bent on destroying democracy and social progress.
Show threadWatchdogJan 24, 2025
@emsenn
Solidarity with the indigenous Indians.
Trump like the rest of his gang are from immigrant colonial settler stock
Show threadIainBJan 24, 2025
@emsenn horrifying
Show threadgzJan 24, 2025
@emsenn
WTAF? 😡
Show threadMakanaBoyJan 24, 2025
@emsenn How in the world did we end up here, WTF.
Show threadxs4me2Jan 24, 2025

@emsenn

The Klan just came to town to govern…

#uspol

Show threadPasswordsarehard4Jan 24, 2025
@xs4me2 @emsenn they never left, just changed clothes.
Show threadxs4me2Jan 24, 2025

@passwordsarehard4 @emsenn

Exactly... now wearing ties and suits and in the open. Encouraged by the pied piper in charge.

Show threadPeter BrownJan 24, 2025

@emsenn quite clearly if a Native American commits a crime they are subject to the US legal system in exactly the same way as the European settlers so quite plainly they are under US jurisdiction.

To argue otherwise would be to suggest they are above US law .

Show threadPasswordsarehard4Jan 24, 2025
@peterbrown @emsenn well, not exactly. BIA police handle specifically native issues. That’s a federal bureau, no other group I know of gets that.
Show threadPeter BrownJan 24, 2025
@passwordsarehard4 @emsenn a USA federal bureau? does that not mean they’re under USA jurisdiction? Or is it just a way of depriving them of a vote, like Puerto Rico?
Show threadPasswordsarehard4Jan 25, 2025
@peterbrown @emsenn it is, at least to the extent that I understand it, but it isn’t just like European originated citizens have either. They do have some differences and they are major enough to warrant a bureau to maintain them.
Show threadPasswordsarehard4Jan 24, 2025
@peterbrown @emsenn well, not exactly. BIA police handle specifically native issues. That’s a federal bureau, no other group I know of gets that.
Show threadStevie Inghram, ND, MSJan 24, 2025
@emsenn Very much giving 21st century colonist. 😭
Show threadCohoJan 24, 2025
@emsenn
It's unbelievable that this has even been brought up. It is indeed a direct attack, and declaration of war. They'll becoming for tribal territory, for the extractive industries
Show threadPersonneJan 24, 2025

@emsenn

What more will it take for people to recognise a white supremacy project when they see it...?

Show threadEmmett LeeJan 24, 2025
@emsenn
Show threadJulien MagnusJan 24, 2025

@emsenn

just remind me, who were the first invaders ?

Show threadsleepy62🍁🛠️ 🖥️ 🔬 🌞Jan 24, 2025

@emsenn

Hang on, Are they trying to say that First Nations people are not citizens!!!??? 😆 🤣 😆 🤣 😆 🤣

They are the original citizens FFS!!

What kind of assholes are these guys??

#Indigenous

Show threadlucabianciardiJan 24, 2025
@emsenn i #pellerossa come #immigrati clandestini. #Trump é mitico. La realtà supera ogni più fervida fantasia
Show threadMartina NeumayerJan 24, 2025
@emsenn
Show threadjjgJan 24, 2025
@emsenn as a white person who appreciates being allowed on ho-chunk land I’ll happily use what resources I have to push these unwelcome folks out.
Show threadToni AittoniemiJan 24, 2025

@emsenn ”Watch us do it”
I think they’ll pull every lever, keep making things worse until someone stops them actually.

Cruelty is the whole point.

Sorry if this hurts anyone, but the global West seems to be fixated on thinking ”everything is fine”, we cling onto it for dear life.

That’s the weak spot, the exploit. We avoid doing anything, because even if the price of remaining comfortable is to pretend, we do it.

Until that ends, they’ll keep ripping all the good to shreds.

Show threadBill ZaumenJan 24, 2025
@emsenn If Native Americans are not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. as some moron seems to be claiming, then it would follow that no Native American should ever have been convicted of a crime in a U.S. court. Also, the pre-14th Amendment law excludes "Indians who are not taxed", not ones who are taxed, and according to https://narf.org/frequently-asked-questions/ Native Americans pay federal income taxes. It would seem that the set of Native Americans who are not U.S. citizens is the null set.
Frequently Asked Questions - Native American Rights Fund

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about Native Peoples Who is a Native American? As a general principle an Indian is a person who is of some degree Indian blood and is recognized as an Indian by a tribe/village and/or the United States. There exists no universally accepted rule for establishing a person’s identity as an … Continued

Native American Rights Fund
Show threadGithaJan 25, 2025
@emsenn
Show threadauthor_is_ShrikeTron🔠💉x7Jan 25, 2025

@emsenn @beadsland Another round of "not again"!

Just can't trust this "United States".

Show threadtexanarchyJan 25, 2025
@emsenn it’s about the land/resources/pipeline right of way ie the money. They want every last little bit.
Show threadKaikaJan 27, 2025
@emsenn C'est quoi encore ce truc ? Ils vont loin.. De plus en plus dégoutée
Show threadMerry ChristmasJan 28, 2025

@emsenn

Trump is a vile man.