Open Letter to Mark Zuckerberg
@pixelfed wasnt facebook at first something to rate campus girls or sth

@ctrl https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/06/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again/: »Facebook, a cancer of a company founded to nonconsenually rate the fuckability of Harvard undergrads (incredibly, that was Facebook’s least terrible moment. It actually got worse after that)«

@pixelfed

Fool Me Twice We Don’t Get Fooled Again – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

@wonka @ctrl @pixelfed We're pretty sure the people of Earth, as a whole, have rated Zuck the Cuck -1,000,000,000 for f***ability 🤭

@StrangeCulprits The saddest part is that despite all his material wealth he never managed to buy something remotely approaching a personality. Take his net worth and prepend a negative, that's about it. Net Worthlessness.

@wonka @ctrl @pixelfed

@wonka @ctrl @pixelfed

Wise words from Cory Doctorow;
"From now on, I will put more weight on how easy it is to leave a service than on what I get from staying. A bad service that you can easily switch away from is incentivized to improve, and if the incentive fails, you can leave."

@ctrl To paraphrase: "They're giving us all this personal information for free. Fucking morons."

@ctrl
same thought exactly

(attributing any idealism to the origins of facebook is just wrong)

@pixelfed

@pixelfed maybe he can carve out some time from his busy trump inauguration party organising schedule to read it 🤪
@gergolippai @pixelfed Between fucking the ostrich and kissing the orange anus Zuckerberg is busy, probably will not read it.

@pixelfed it may help to shorten the letter

Dear Zuck,

Get bent, loser

Signed,
All of us

@endeavorance @pixelfed nice... would've been better to end it with "dumb fuck" but... cool...

@pixelfed "Remember when Facebook started? It was about rating women."

Fixed it for you.

@pixelfed this is great but Zuck’s early “dumb fucks” comment highlighted his real attitude
@pixelfed
Deutsche Übersetzung:

»Lieber Mark,
Ich hoffe, es geht Ihnen gut. Mir ist heute etwas Interessantes aufgefallen - es scheint, dass Instagram Links zu meinem kleinen Open-Source-Projekt blockiert. Sie wissen schon, die, die es Menschen ermöglicht, Fotos zu teilen, ohne ihre persönlichen Daten zu sammeln oder algorithmische Feeds auf sie zu erzwingen.

Ich muss zugeben, ich fühle mich geschmeichelt. Wer hätte gedacht, dass ein kleines Team von Freiwilligen etwas aufbauen könnte, das Ihre Aufmerksamkeit auf sich ziehen würde? Wir versuchen nur, den Menschen die Wahl zu geben, wie sie ihre Erinnerungen online teilen. Keine VCs, kein Überwachungskapitalismus, nur Code und Gemeinschaft.

Weißt du noch, wann Facebook gestartet wurde? Es ging darum, Menschen zu verbinden, nicht um die Interaktionsmetriken zu maximieren. Unser Projekt mag im Vergleich zu Instagram winzig sein, aber wir bleiben dem ursprünglichen Geist der sozialen Medien treu - Menschen die Kontrolle über ihre Online-Präsenz zu geben, ohne sie in Produkte zu verwandeln.

Du hättest uns ignorieren können. Stattdessen haben Sie uns durch das Blockieren unserer Links die beste Unterstützung gegeben, die wir uns wünschen konnten. Sie haben bestätigt, was wir die ganze Zeit gesagt haben - dass Big Tech mehr daran interessiert ist, ihre ummauerten Gärten zu schützen, als echte Innovationen zu fördern.

Jedes Mal, wenn Sie einen Link zu unserer Plattform blockieren, erinnern Sie die Leute daran, warum wir ihn überhaupt erstellt haben. Ihr Handeln sagt ihnen, dass es Alternativen gibt, die es wert sind, untersucht zu werden, die ihre Privatsphäre und Handlungsfähigkeit respektieren. Also danke, Mark. Sie haben unser kleines Projekt in ein Symbol des Widerstands gegen digitale Monopole verwandelt.«

(Maschinell übersetzt)

@pixelfed this reads like somebody with maturity issues wrote it. Also at least export the thing into a pdf first, the squiggly lines and text cursor are still visible  

More importantly, Zuckerberg didn’t build Facebook because he believed in anything, at least not anything good - initially the project was to rate college girls on their appearances

@Mudlark @pixelfed

You a very true about your observations…

Just found out that people finally started to speak out about these issues.
https://dansup-open-letter.github.io/

An open letter to NLnet

@pixelfed we are all with you!!

@pixelfed This must be read in the same tone Kain used when addressing the elder god at the end of “Defiance”.

“Your words are heartening. For you would not fear us unless we could truly do you harm. False god. This is the end. The final turn of your wheel.”

@pixelfed "it was about connecting people" Uh huh, specifically sexist, usually male people, so that they could more easily objectify women. Kissass
@pixelfed Supernault is a pretty cool name.
@pixelfed Dude very nice! Keep going.

@pixelfed

A professional business model doesn't rely on lies to make money, nor do they help their clients spread lies and dangerous conspiracies. So maybe we shouldn't look at Facebook as a model for professionalism. But that just my rant. You may see thing differently.

@pixelfed It was never about connecting people, it was always about „engagement”.
Make Socials Social Again

Wij roepen publieke organisaties op om samen de eerste stap te zetten door alternatieven te gaan gebruiken voor Big Tech sociale media platformen.

@pixelfed No surveillance capitalism*

*but it still owns everything that gets posted there in every way, shape, and form to use however Dan sees fit, forever.

Please work on that terms of service

@pixelfed loving the new web interface btw. (The dark mode 😍)
@pixelfed 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@pixelfed Mark be like: What do you mean? want to compete with me?
@pixelfed I don't think facebook was ever about "connecting people" though ^^

@pixelfed @paul_e_cooley unfortunately, intentionally or accidentally. Dan is following Elon's 'move fast and break things' mentality.

He's doing great things for fediverse visibility... but being a one man show leads to getting your ego involved or missing things (like Loops' egregious rights over-reach in its TOS).

Dan's done a lot of good... I just hope he can avoid an Icarus-style crash and burn that could undo a lot of that good.
..

@john
@paul_e_cooley

I’ve seen my fair share myself - tried to contribute to this project… But yeah quite impossible.

Just found out people finally started to speak out about these wider problem(s)

https://dansup-open-letter.github.io/

An open letter to NLnet

@pixelfed I believe texts get better when we step aside for a few cycles and not let ourselves be driven by the highness of attention. Zuckerberg has never been what you describe. There is no grassroots moral origin we could jumpstart in the back of his memory. It is historically evident that Facebook, later meta has frequently chosen the unethical paths when they had choice to. There is no ancient ideal to appeal to. No renaissance can happen.
@pixelfed great letter! Rooting for you all the way!! A couple of years after I started NadaMoo, I got a cold call from the retired director of sales for Ben and Jerry’s. “Your product has ‘legs’” he said, “and I want to help.” No threats from lawyers followed. Because Ben and Jerry got it right: equity, sustainability and community can be the pillars of successful businesses. They were not in my niche market, but they still cared about the people in my niche market.

@pixelfed this "open letter" is embarassing... to Pixelfed.

"connecting people"? Facebook was created to predate on women and use their data without their consent!!! it was NEVER about connecting people, it was always about misogyny, ego and money.

@pixelfed
"without harvesting their personal data"?
Maybe someone should tell the lawyers who drafted the Loops TOS that :)
https://bajsicki.com/blog/loops-video-terms/
loops.video - phil@bajsicki:~$

Been a while. I’ve mostly been posting on the Fedi, but I feel like this is a rather important topic that requires attention. Recently @dansup has been posting a bunch about loops.video, a federated alternative to Instagram/ TikTok. While I agree that an open, free and federated alternative to these platforms is necessary, I am consistently finding myself questioning the intentions encoded in their Terms of Service. Before going further, I’ll clarify: loops.video is not currently federating, but federation is planned using the ActivityPub protocol. If it does happen, and the ToS isn’t properly adjusted, it will cause problems.

@pixelfed Streisand effect at its best
@pixelfed Damn Daniel, you didn't have to obliterate Mark like that.
Just kidding, he deserves every bit of criticism imaginable.
@pixelfed I mean, when Facebook started, it was about ranking the looks of women on campus. It was never about 'connecting people'.

@pixelfed

Well, Facebook started as a sexist platform for rating female college students without consent.
There is nothing you can expect from such an "inventor".

@pixelfed I may not be an economist, but generally when they gush about innovations that selflessly want to connect people, they’re generally talking about marketing more than edenic community…no offense to the love-machine of laissez-faire of course

@pixelfed

»You've confirmed what we've been saying all along - that big tech is more interested in protecting their walled gardens than fostering genuine innovation.«

All along? Here's what you said, last September:

»Meta approached the fediverse in the proper way
They didn't acquire Mastodon
Instead they worked with fedi projects big and small regarding interop
Meta isn't the enemy«

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/113202932579175959

@pixelfed Except Zuck took someone else's project and figured out how to monetize it. Zuck never had good intentions or tried to make the world a better place.